Global overpopulation

[Zlaxer]

...genetics are responsible for all human problems and are responsible for all human achievements.

Umm...they are....

[Otern]

A low level of technology has a substantially lower carrying capacity than a higher level of technology. Technology might not be magic, but it drastically effects what the earth's carrying capacity is. Non-renewables will not start running low at any point in the near future, and by the time they do, technology will have changed so much that is might not even matter that much, or at all, depending how far into the future that actually happens.

If you think we are going to start running low in 20 years, that's just Malthusian SIFCLF bullshit.

The carrying capacity of the World increased primarily because of fossil fuels, not "technology". Technology made it possible to exploit those resources.

I'm not saying technological advancement will not make it possible for more people to live on the Earth than without the technological advancements. But I am saying the ability to exploit the limited fossil fuels, have given humanity an unnatural energy boost for the last 200 years. And it's this boost that fueled a lot of the technological progress, combined with advancements in medicine, that gave us a population boom.

This extremely cheap, but limited source of energy, is not getting replenished. The demand of renewable energy will increase, fair enough, the economists say, as the market will move its invisible hand and supply will meet the demand. But it's really not a question of economics, but of nature.

Renewable sources simply can't meet the demand we've gotten used to through non-renewables.

[Speaker to Animals]

Biologists have been trying to solve the bee colony collapse disorder for some time now. The main culprit is the varoa mite. One thing they have been able to do is breed bees that are genetically more fastidious and hygienic. These bees spend a lot of time grooming and cleaning the hive compared to most other bees in North America. This results in slightly better resilience against the varoa mites. The downside of this is that the time workers spend on hygiene is not spent on collecting resources and producing honey. It's a trade-off and there's no way ensure all bees get those traits because we cannot realistically control with what drones any queen mates with on her virgin flight.

In any case, it is of my opinion that something similar happened to European peoples as a result of the Black Death. The Black Death required a very high degree of fastidiousness and hygiene. Those without a very high degree of those things tended to not survive and produce offspring. This is why the one of the myths about the medieval period being some dirty place is just a myth. They were much cleaner than us. Even going into the late stages of the Black Death, you can see Shakespeare getting fined for not having a meticulously clean area around his home. They were serious as fuck about that.

I think this fastidiousness amongst our people predisposed us to being hyper-environmentalists. It's just not as natural for Latinos and Africans, for example, to adopt environmentalism and conservationism because they don't have that genetic trait that predisposes them to it. If we were bees, everybody could hopefully intellectually understand that a high degree of hygiene is now required to combat the varoa mites, but in this analogy it is only Europeans who are predisposed to it regardless of the mites.

Environmental damage is not unlike colony collapse disorder, it just takes longer to collapse civilizations. It's pretty trivial to convince most white people to clean up. It's not that trivial to convince other races. In Africa, black Africans associate environmentalism with colonialism. They don't care and they aren't buying it. The United States got polluted pretty fast when we industrialized, but within forty years we had the conservation movement and a strong regulatory environment to clean up. China has been industrialized longer and there is literally no sign they give a fuck or will ever give a fuck.

[StCapps]

...genetics are responsible for all human problems and are responsible for all human achievements.

Umm...they are....

No, they aren't. Dirty Filthy Eugenicist Faggot.

[StCapps]

In Africa, black Africans associate environmentalism with colonialism. They don't care and they aren't buying it. The United States got polluted pretty fast when we industrialized, but within forty years we had the conservation movement and a strong regulatory environment to clean up. China has been industrialized longer and there is literally no sign they give a fuck or will ever give a fuck.

On Africa, that's because it is colonialism, the climate change scam is a partially a ruse to prevent them from industrializing, can't industrialize because ZOMG Carbon Emissions! Props to them for seeing through that bullshit.

On China, it's the Communism, and the second world status, not the Asians. Japan not communist, not a second world nation, started giving a shit about the environment after they began industrializing and reached first world status.

[Speaker to Animals]

The civic nationalism myth dies hard with this one.

Just take a drive to minority areas and note the garbage.

[StCapps]

The civic nationalism myth dies hard with this one.

Just take a drive to minority areas and note the garbage.

That's a wealth thing, not an ethnicity thing. Go to a wealthy neighborhood with lots of north east asians, it's clean as fuck, note the lack of garbage.

[Speaker to Animals]

These are the mental games engaged in by a crazy person. You have this tight circular narrative to explain away everything. All the counterfactuals get explained away as the products of racism, economics, geography, yada yada. It's like trying to convince that crazy dude that not everybody is plotting to kill him. Of course you'd say that, to try to gain his trust so that he lets his guard down and you have an opening to kill him.

It's literally crazy.

[StCapps]

These are the mental games engaged in by a crazy person. You have this tight circular narrative to explain away everything. All the counterfactuals get explained away as the products of racism, economics, geography, yada yada. It's like trying to convince that crazy dude that not everybody is plotting to kill him. Of course you'd say that, to try to gain his trust so that he lets his guard down and you have an opening to kill him.

It's literally crazy.

You are one engaging in mental games like a crazy person. It is you who has tight circular narrative to explain away how everything isn't about race. All the counterfactuals get explained away as products of biology, genetics, ethnicity, IQ, yada yada. It's like trying to convince a crazy dude that not everybody is plotting to kill him. Of course you'd say that, to try to gain his trust so that he lets his guard down and you have an opening to kill him.

It's literally crazy. Eugenicist crazy.

[Speaker to Animals]

There's no mental games played by me. The facts speak for themselves. Most of the pollution is coming from nonwhite nations. You claim that's because they are poorer. But even here in America, one need only literally drive to minority neighborhoods to see the truth: garbage everywhere.

This is Baltimore:




They really don't give a shit, capps.