Civil War Doomsday Clock

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by BjornP » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:37 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:00 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:18 pm
Good thing we had all this overwhelming firepower in Afghanistan. The Taliban never had a chance with nothing but small arms and homemade explosives..
Yeah, they're fine. Just watching thousands of people get their asses blown up, then shot at if they get pissed about it. Life is good there.
For the Taliban, it sure is good. Winning usually is.

Not that theTaliban is actually comparable to the average US gun owner in terms of determination to fight the government.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Fife » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:21 am

Nationalists vs. Countrymen; Urban vs. Rural; Yankee Puritan vs. everyone else; on and on it goes. The Nationalists want you to serve a sovereign somewhere over the seas, can you guess where?

Think locally, act locally.

The United States Is Not a Nation: The Problem with "National Conservatism"
Because the United States is not, and has never been, a nation. The founding generation referred to the United States as a plural noun (i.e., “these United States”) because several sovereigns fell under that designation. St. George Tucker called the United States a “federal compact” consisting of “several sovereign and independent states.” If his view seems unrecognizable today, it is because nationalism within the United States is dying or dead—and the United States killed it.

The United States of America in the singular is a country, not a nation. It contains nations within it, but does not itself constitute a nation. Nations involve solidarity among people who share a common culture, language, customs, mores, ethnicity, and history. A country, by contrast, involves political arrangements and governmental territories and boundaries.

From its inception, the United States has been characterized by faction and sectionalism, cultural clashes, and competing narratives — between Indian tribes in what is now Florida and California, Wyoming and Maine, Georgia and Michigan; between the British and French and Spanish and Dutch; between Protestants and Catholics and English Dissenters and nonconformists and splintering denominations; between the Calvinism of Cotton Mather and the Enlightenment rationalism that influenced Franklin and Jefferson. The United States has experienced, as well, numerous separatist movements, including, most notably, the secession of the states that made up the Confederate States of America.

The United States is not a nation.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:36 am

Fife wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:21 am
Nationalists vs. Countrymen; Urban vs. Rural; Yankee Puritan vs. everyone else; on and on it goes. The Nationalists want you to serve a sovereign somewhere over the seas, can you guess where?

Think locally, act locally.

The United States Is Not a Nation: The Problem with "National Conservatism"
Because the United States is not, and has never been, a nation. The founding generation referred to the United States as a plural noun (i.e., “these United States”) because several sovereigns fell under that designation. St. George Tucker called the United States a “federal compact” consisting of “several sovereign and independent states.” If his view seems unrecognizable today, it is because nationalism within the United States is dying or dead—and the United States killed it.

The United States of America in the singular is a country, not a nation. It contains nations within it, but does not itself constitute a nation. Nations involve solidarity among people who share a common culture, language, customs, mores, ethnicity, and history. A country, by contrast, involves political arrangements and governmental territories and boundaries.

From its inception, the United States has been characterized by faction and sectionalism, cultural clashes, and competing narratives — between Indian tribes in what is now Florida and California, Wyoming and Maine, Georgia and Michigan; between the British and French and Spanish and Dutch; between Protestants and Catholics and English Dissenters and nonconformists and splintering denominations; between the Calvinism of Cotton Mather and the Enlightenment rationalism that influenced Franklin and Jefferson. The United States has experienced, as well, numerous separatist movements, including, most notably, the secession of the states that made up the Confederate States of America.

The United States is not a nation.

State Sovereignty is a cute notion in this age.

Here’s an interesting observation I heard on the Radio - there has never been a constitutional republic where the Constitution was able to keep the government from becoming tyrannical.

Perhaps Jefferson was right.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:58 am

It's not an issue of a republic or having a constitution, but one of democracy. Democracy always leads either to total ruin or to some form of military rule. Always.

The other aspect of this problem is multiculturalism. Multiculturalism leads towards sectarian war or some form of authoritarian government that can keep the sectarian conflict at bay.

America faces both problems, and my guess is that the military will take over at some point to keep the ethnic cleansing at bay. But that could be a hopeless act. Authoritarian military rule did not stop Austria-Hungary from imploding and kicking off the world wars. I think the world risks something similar happening again, but centered around the US. Problem is, most European powers face it too. It is not an isolated risk.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by pineapplemike » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:52 pm

Joaquin Castro Posts Names, Employers Of Trump Donors
https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/06/joaq ... mp-donors/

Democratic Texas Rep. Joaquin Castro on Monday tweeted the names and employers of 44 San Antonio residents who donated the federal maximum to President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign.

Castro, whose district includes much of San Antonio, claimed the donors “are fueling a campaign of hate that labels Hispanic immigrants as ‘invaders.'” Castro is the twin brother of Democratic presidential candidate Julian Castro and chairs his presidential campaign.
Sad to see so many San Antonians as 2019 maximum donors to Donald Trump — the owner of ⁦@BillMillerBarBQ⁩, owner of the ⁦@HistoricPearl, realtor Phyllis Browning, etc⁩.

Their contributions are fueling a campaign of hate that labels Hispanic immigrants as ‘invaders.’ pic.twitter.com/YT85IBF19u

— Joaquin Castro (@Castro4Congress) August 6, 2019

“Sad to see so many San Antonians as 2019 maximum donors to Donald Trump,” the congressman wrote, proceeding to name local businesses whose owners gave the maximum to Trump’s campaign. Eleven of the 44 donors shown in Rep. Castro’s post listed their employment as “retired.”
what a fucking mega cunt

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:05 pm

Hypocrite does that while complaining about fueling hate. :naughty:

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Zlaxer » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:03 am

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... cal-moment

Texas is Blue - DNC power is over 9000...

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by The Conservative » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:52 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:03 am
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watc ... cal-moment

Texas is Blue - DNC power is over 9000...
Wow, slanted piece at all?
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by StCapps » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:58 pm

Texas is not blue, it's not even purple.
*yip*

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:13 am

Another attack on an Federal Immigration Center. Shot's fired, suspect arrested.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... -arrested/
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