Net Neutrality

[The Conservative]

The FCC doesn't crack down on big business, AT&T is one exception, a token exception, but you'll note that the phone companies are still an oligopoly getting blowjobs from the FCC. Naming a single exception does not disprove the rule.

The FCC ain't breaking up the big internet providers, they are going to entrench them further, and one day, they might trust bust one of them, but the rest of the time they'll be giving them blowjobs and preventing competition from rising up to dethrone the big boys. All while censoring folks far more than social media dares to now.

You advocate for making the problem worse.

You won't address these points though, you don't want to debate this subject, you dodge debating it far more than I do when you repeat irrelevant nonsense and keep bringing up arguments that are destroyed on several occasions as if no one has addressed them yet. Either start engaging in good faith debate or stop getting mad when people disagree in good faith while you shit up the forum.

Well there are examples of where the government/fcc did break up a big company, but they are far and few in-between. The reason is because doing so can cause a bit of chaos, and unless its controlled chaos the government and markets as a whole don't like it.

They only do token break ups, and the rest of the time they are keeping the competition to big companies down, and sheltering big business from competition is most of what they do when they aren't censoring shit left and right.

StA would have us believe that a token break up now and then means the FCC mission is to protect the consumer and small competition, but he's lying to himself and everyone else.

Well so far you are proven right, the only exception to that rule was the "Ma Bell" companies.

[StCapps]

Well there are examples of where the government/fcc did break up a big company, but they are far and few in-between. The reason is because doing so can cause a bit of chaos, and unless its controlled chaos the government and markets as a whole don't like it.

They only do token break ups, and the rest of the time they are keeping the competition to big companies down, and sheltering big business from competition is most of what they do when they aren't censoring shit left and right.

StA would have us believe that a token break up now and then means the FCC mission is to protect the consumer and small competition, but he's lying to himself and everyone else.

Well so far you are proven right, the only exception to that rule was the "Ma Bell" companies.

Giving the FCC control is not bad for big business and it's not good for free speech. StA thinks they are champions of free speech and trust busting, when they are probably the last government agency you would want to assign with that task, it's hilarious.

[The Conservative]

They only do token break ups, and the rest of the time they are keeping the competition to big companies down, and sheltering big business from competition is most of what they do when they aren't censoring shit left and right.

StA would have us believe that a token break up now and then means the FCC mission is to protect the consumer and small competition, but he's lying to himself and everyone else.

Well so far you are proven right, the only exception to that rule was the "Ma Bell" companies.

Giving the FCC control is not bad for big business and it's not good for free speech. StA thinks they are champions of free speech and trust busting, when they are probably the last government agency you would want to assign with that task, it's hilarious.

Well, he is a government lackey.

That being said, if you want something done right, the Government isn't where it needs to come from... the FCC and the FED need some major overhauling or decommissioning.

[StCapps]

Well so far you are proven right, the only exception to that rule was the "Ma Bell" companies.

Giving the FCC control is not bad for big business and it's not good for free speech. StA thinks they are champions of free speech and trust busting, when they are probably the last government agency you would want to assign with that task, it's hilarious.

Well, he is a government lackey.

That being said, if you want something done right, the Government isn't where it needs to come from... the FCC and the FED need some major overhauling or decommissioning.

Get rid of the FCC, it's completely fucking useless.

[The Conservative]

Giving the FCC control is not bad for big business and it's not good for free speech. StA thinks they are champions of free speech and trust busting, when they are probably the last government agency you would want to assign with that task, it's hilarious.

Well, he is a government lackey.

That being said, if you want something done right, the Government isn't where it needs to come from... the FCC and the FED need some major overhauling or decommissioning.

Get rid of the FCC, it's completely fucking useless.

The Fed is actually illegal too.

[Speaker to Animals]

So all major carriers caught selling everybody's real time location data, including in some cases to cyberstalkers, was a win in capps and tc's opinion.

That's really fucking fantastic. Let everybody know what they are dealing with upfront when you post. You think this is a great outcome.

With disgusting opinions like that, it's no wonder they have to bury arguments in wrestling videos. They obviously could not defend this.

[The Conservative]

So all major carriers caught selling everybody's real time location data, including in some cases to cyberstalkers, was a win in capps and tc's opinion.

That's really fucking fantastic. Let everybody know what they are dealing with upfront when you post. You think this is a great outcome.

With disgusting opinions like that, it's no wonder they have to bury arguments in wrestling videos. They obviously could not defend this.

Don't worry, Facebook, Google, etc already did that for them.

And there are laws on the books for that already, if the FCC doesn't do anything about it, then what use of it?

[Speaker to Animals]

So all major carriers caught selling everybody's real time location data, including in some cases to cyberstalkers, was a win in capps and tc's opinion.

That's really fucking fantastic. Let everybody know what they are dealing with upfront when you post. You think this is a great outcome.

With disgusting opinions like that, it's no wonder they have to bury arguments in wrestling videos. They obviously could not defend this.

Don't worry, Facebook, Google, etc already did that for them.

And there are laws on the books for that already, if the FCC doesn't do anything about it, then what use of it?

No, nobody did that until wireless carriers started it. You consent to tracking when you use Google maps. Nobody consented to this.

You support selling abused women's real time location data to abusive predators and stalkers. That was the literal outcome of deregulation.

You need to be clear and honest about the outcomes of your positions.

[SuburbanFarmer]

This is what kind of corporations we deregulated even further:

AT&T in particular has had a rough month. In July, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) filed a class action lawsuit on behalf of AT&T customers in California to stop the telecom giant and two data location aggregators from allowing numerous entities — including bounty hunters, car dealerships, landlords and stalkers — to access wireless customers’ real-time locations without authorization.

Aaron Mackey, a staff attorney at the EFF, said that on the location data-sharing issue, federal law already bars the wireless carriers from sharing this with third parties without the expressed consent of consumers.

“What we’ve seen is the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is well aware of this ongoing behavior about location data sales,” Mackey said. “The FCC has said it’s under investigation, but there has been no public action taken yet and this has been going on for more than a year. The major wireless carriers are not only violating federal law, but they’re also putting people in harm’s way. There are countless stories of folks being able to pretend to be law enforcement and gaining access to information they can use to assault and harass people based on the carriers making location data available to a host of third parties.”

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/08/who ... crooks-do/


That fucking pajeet Trump put in charge of the FCC should be shot for incompetence.

lolbergs and neocohens have no place at the driver's wheel of the republican party either.

Pajeets have absolutely no sense of personal freedom. They love authoritarianism.

[The Conservative]

So all major carriers caught selling everybody's real time location data, including in some cases to cyberstalkers, was a win in capps and tc's opinion.

That's really fucking fantastic. Let everybody know what they are dealing with upfront when you post. You think this is a great outcome.

With disgusting opinions like that, it's no wonder they have to bury arguments in wrestling videos. They obviously could not defend this.

Don't worry, Facebook, Google, etc already did that for them.

And there are laws on the books for that already, if the FCC doesn't do anything about it, then what use of it?

No, nobody did that until wireless carriers started it. You consent to tracking when you use Google maps. Nobody consented to this.

You support selling abused women's real time location data to abusive predators and stalkers. That was the literal outcome of deregulation.

You need to be clear and honest about the outcomes of your positions.

What do you care, you are anti-woman anyway?

And I love how you are assuming things... selling data is never OK. You seriously forget what my position is don't you?

Security for my company is top priority, as is with home, so the fact people are willing to give away their information so freely should speak volumes for the people instead of the companies that are collecting it.