They won't realize that, they'll assume they can spend like drunken sailors even without military cuts. Democrats especially don't care about the "how to pay for it" factor, neither do Republicans, but they care a lot more than the Democrats do, and Trump didn't say how he'd pay for fuck all. Primary voters are not policy wonks, they don't care about minutiae like that.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:29 pmWhen they realize what social welfare policies they could buy with that money instead.. it's all over. Dem voters do not care about the military.
This is the biggest weakness of the dem establishment. They promise their voters all this shit, but work for MIC. When the dem voters truly realize that the price tag of the chicken hawk empire is comparable to the price tag for all these ideas they have.. lol. Outsiders will get all the dem votes.
That might not translate to a victory in the general election. That is a different issue.
But the case Tulsi can make to the other voters in the general election is this: You may equally dislike these social welfare policies and the chicken hawk empire, but social welfare policies at least get spent on you.
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They are generally pretty stupid, but not that stupid.
She has to make that case in the debates and she needs supporters to make the case to their friends. But once you really break this down to them, they will get it.
Would you rather have universal healthcare or 11 carrier strike groups??
Put it like that.
She has to make that case in the debates and she needs supporters to make the case to their friends. But once you really break this down to them, they will get it.
Would you rather have universal healthcare or 11 carrier strike groups??
Put it like that.
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Yes they are that stupid, even Republicans didn't care, or Trump would have lost, and there are far more Republican fiscal conservatives than Democrat fiscal conservatives. How you're going to pay for it does not matter, you can say Mexico will pay for it, or economic growth will pay for it, and rubes will eat that shit up.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:33 pmThey are generally pretty stupid, but not that stupid.
She has to make that case in the debates and she needs supporters to make the case to their friends.
You seriously overestimate the intelligence of primary voters and the American electorate in general, the fine details do not matter, policy wonkery does not win elections.
Tulsi needs to get better at blowing sunshine up Democrats asses, and focus less on how she is going to pay for shit, there is no other path to victory, bet that.
On the anti-war angle, she needs to play up the morality aspect and focus less on how it will pay for other spending she wants to do. Saying you can't pay for the other spending gives rubes the impression she doesn't care enough about the issues they want it spent on, and only cares about the anti-war part, it's bad marketing.
Even then that's not a winning issue in a Democratic primary, and it's the focus of her campaign, she needs to stop being a one-issue candidate.
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Biden has recovered from the brief downswing after the last debate. As usual, reports of his demise were greatly exaggerated.
Yang tied for sixth place with Beto now, with 2.3%, and ahead of Booker.
Yang tied for sixth place with Beto now, with 2.3%, and ahead of Booker.
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Less of a recovery, more of a stopping the bleeding.
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Before the first debate, Biden was at 32.0% on aggregate, right now he's at 31.3%.
That ain't just stopping the bleeding, in total he's lost 0.7% of his support from before the first debate, that ain't even bleeding, that a negligible difference.
Biden's lead over the rest of the field has slightly increased since the first debate.
The damage Kamala Harris did was entirely temporary, despite hopes from folks on this forum that it was the beginning of the end for Biden.
Wishful Thinking is a helluva drug.
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The DNC's newest spokesperson and totem has quite a bit of name recognition, among GenX at least.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/29/ka ... h-pogroms/
https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/29/ka ... h-pogroms/
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Who else can't wait to see what sort of winner the LP puts up this time?
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New polls in, Biden back to 32% on aggregate, right where he was before the debate, he's completely recovered, just like I said mere hours ago.
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