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[TheReal_ND]

[The Conservative]

Remember what history, genius?

The history where they revolted and handed us our asses several times?

You cannot win the "let's fuck with international shipping" game with Iran when a quarter of all oil tankers have to pass through a straight that puts them about four miles from Iranian territory.

Iranians are not dumbass Arabs.

Once you realize the issue with your argument, come back to me.

Until then, I got a budget to write.

Defend your thesis or admit you are out of your fucking depth. We never won any conflict with Iran. When you consider the Southern Iraqi insurgency, the Iranian Revolution, and the nuclear program, it's 0 for 3, and that's not including all the little confrontations, including a US Navy patrol boat captured and its crew taken prisoner, several oil rigs raided over the past several decades, and also Iranian assistance provided to the Taliban. Then there are numerous terrorist acts that they never paid for.

Then there is the Straight of Hormuz:



A not insignificant amount of shipping has to pass through there, within only a few miles of the shores of Iran, well within Iranian territorial waters. They control the world's access to probably a quarter if not more of the annual oil supply by that straight. If you want to play a game of fucking with international shipping, Iran is uniquely positioned to completely fuck your shit up.

But I don't "realize the issue with my argument", which you failed to elucidate (because you know you don't have any argument).

You are not only ignorant, you are cherry picking, which for you isn't amazing. What you call a boon to them is also their own Achilles' heel. The fact you can't see this, again doesn't amaze me, but also at the same time shows your narrow sightedness towards any military conflict with them.

The fact Iran can't do anything without holding that piece of territory, speaks volumes about their own fragility towards the region. To maintain control of the region they have to put all their eggs into one basket. The US has not only a stronger military, but also a navy, which is better trained and has dealt with this type of issue before.

With the Persian Gulf pretty much pinched by a narrow straight, and the US having bases on both sides of Iran, and the ability to reinforce both regions in less than 24 hours at worst case scenario... the US is in a lot stronger position than you and Iran think.

The fact you are stating attacks on the US during the Obama Administration, and the Bush Administration, doesn't do shit for your argument, especially since in both cases the military was never allowed to do what it needed to do to win.

So if you have anything worth stating, beyond the fact that you are ignoring history, and why we "lost" those events... vs today's environment, you'll see an entirely different environment... which by the sounds of it, you refuse to see.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Yes, it really is that simple. Nobody else within say, spitting distance of Iran has any reason to care what happens there. And certainly no one with a world-ending array of nuclear weaponry, or a massive military.

[StCapps]

Yes, it really is that simple. Nobody else within say, spitting distance of Iran has any reason to care what happens there. And certainly no one with a world-ending array of nuclear weaponry, or a massive military.

Russia doesn't care about Iran that much, they care, but they ain't going to nuke the US over it SIFCLF. Russia would like the price of oil to go through the roof anyway, if Iran shuts down the strait of Hormuz, that actually does Russia a huge favor. The US going to war with Iran would escalate tensions between the US and Russia, but the world isn't going to end because of it.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Yes, it really is that simple. Nobody else within say, spitting distance of Iran has any reason to care what happens there. And certainly no one with a world-ending array of nuclear weaponry, or a massive military.

Russia doesn't care about Iran that much, they care, but they ain't going to nuke the US over it SIFCLF. Russia would like the price of oil to go through the roof anyway, if Iran shuts down the strait of Hormuz, that actually does Russia a huge favor. It will escalate tensions between the US and Russia, but the world isn't going to end because of it.

No, of course they won’t go full nukes over this. But it’s setting the stage for dramatic escalation.

[StCapps]

Yes, it really is that simple. Nobody else within say, spitting distance of Iran has any reason to care what happens there. And certainly no one with a world-ending array of nuclear weaponry, or a massive military.

Russia doesn't care about Iran that much, they care, but they ain't going to nuke the US over it SIFCLF. Russia would like the price of oil to go through the roof anyway, if Iran shuts down the strait of Hormuz, that actually does Russia a huge favor. It will escalate tensions between the US and Russia, but the world isn't going to end because of it.

No, of course they won’t go full nukes over this. But it’s setting the stage for dramatic escalation.

Cold War 2.0, who knew? The US will probably go to war with Iran eventually, not necessarily buying it's anytime soon, but once they have a convenient excuse and the economy isn't going so well, they'll probably jump on that.

[TheReal_ND]

That would at least explain the near wartime level censorship and media saturation.

[StCapps]

That would at least explain the near wartime level censorship and media saturation.

You know what else explains it? Media wanting more views, so they claim "war is imminent" because they have no other interesting stories.

If the media was right, war with Iran would have happened on Bush's watch, they've been screeching "War with Iran is just around the corner" for over a decade, usually during down news cycles where they can point to rising tensions and ignore the bigger picture that doesn't sell as well.

Fake news is obvious, when war with Iran does come, the broken clocks will claim they were right all along with their sky is falling tomorrow routine, even though they were wrong far more times than they were right.

Don't buy the hype, the media is like GCF with his "the economy is going to crash any day now" routine. Eventually doesn't mean any day now, but certain folks want to jump the gun so that if they are right 1 in 1 million times, idiots will give them credit for calling it.

[TheReal_ND]

I'm not making predictions tbh. I have no problems stating that the cart is far ahead of the horse however.

Whatever. Censorship is what it is, you could ascribe it to any number of things. Wartime efforts are going to be the simplest route, if they aren't defacto in effect already