Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance
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Interesting idea about how to develop a wheat crop that is best adapted to your local environment.
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This guy does a lot things I plan to do in terms of approaching it a bit experimentally.
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Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:58 amInteresting idea about how to develop a wheat crop that is best adapted to your local environment.
I've thought out doing one acre of Barley just to play around making beer. I have hops growing already and the math worked out to having enough ingredients for about 75 - 100 gallons of beer a year off one acre of Barley.
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I was wondering about that. You can get a brewing system likely relatively cheap from a failed brewery these days when they sell off their assets. If you just built a light structure that was powered and had some kind of air conditioning to maintain temperatures, I wonder how many acres of crops you'd need to produce beer for bartering and maybe even selling? You'd still need some kind of granaries, as well, I guess.C-Mag wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 11:52 amSpeaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:58 amInteresting idea about how to develop a wheat crop that is best adapted to your local environment.
I've thought out doing one acre of Barley just to play around making beer. I have hops growing already and the math worked out to having enough ingredients for about 75 - 100 gallons of beer a year off one acre of Barley.
The brewery waste I know you can use to feed compost worms to create vermi castings that are really, really good compost material for your vegetable plots.
Seems like a steep initial investment, but I see people making similar investments in stupid shit like complex water systems and whatnot.
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Still.. imagine producing hundreds of gallons of good beer each year from almost no external inputs.
The liberals might finally have brought on SHTF, and you are probably short on meat and vegetables because you wasted time and capital setting up a permaculture beer operation, but damn you at least will have some cold beer in the root cellar.
The liberals might finally have brought on SHTF, and you are probably short on meat and vegetables because you wasted time and capital setting up a permaculture beer operation, but damn you at least will have some cold beer in the root cellar.
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Panic Monkey Ebola Update
But this Ebola thing is flying under the radar, it is the second most deadly outbreak with no signs of containment soon. It will likely be the largest outbreak ever before it is contained.
I'm not going into seclusion on the homestead and gut shooting all that approach............... Yet.A medical professional on the border in Texas told Big League Politics that the crisis is reaching fever pitch, with three individuals now quarantined at a privately-owned hospital in El Paso with an unknown disease. The Centers For Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has not even been able to identify the disease the three migrants have, as the military guards the quarantine area.
“There were some Congolese people caught crossing the border, it was suspected they had Ebola.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/ebola-out ... ed-states/
But this Ebola thing is flying under the radar, it is the second most deadly outbreak with no signs of containment soon. It will likely be the largest outbreak ever before it is contained.
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One cool thing about having a substantial apiary on your property is that you can use surplus honey to produce mead. I don't think it takes nearly as much equipment and inputs to produce mead as it does beer, but I might be wrong about that. Mead is nasty, though.
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I laugh at JWR born again Christian preppers that say don't barter in alcohol, drugs, etc. I would definitely do alcohol, not drugs because I don't have them and don't know the culture. But beer, hells yeah.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:00 pm
I was wondering about that. You can get a brewing system likely relatively cheap from a failed brewery these days when they sell off their assets. If you just built a light structure that was powered and had some kind of air conditioning to maintain temperatures, I wonder how many acres of crops you'd need to produce beer for bartering and maybe even selling? You'd still need some kind of granaries, as well, I guess.
The brewery waste I know you can use to feed compost worms to create vermi castings that are really, really good compost material for your vegetable plots.
Seems like a steep initial investment, but I see people making similar investments in stupid shit like complex water systems and whatnot.
Quick math on beer. 75 lbs barley for one barrel of beer (31 gallons). 1 acre barley, dry land 35 bushels to the acre, irrigated 50 bushels to the acre. Barley weight is 48 lbs per bushell.
1 acre avg yield 42 bushels. 42 bushels X 48 lbs = 2,016 lbs
2016 lbs divided by 75 lbs per barrel = 26.9 barrels
26.9 barrels X 31 gal/barrel = 833 gallons of beer
That's the first time I wrote out the math. I previously did it in my head and missed a digit, I was thinking around 85 gallons. Crap, that's a lot of beer.
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Takes too much honey. I thought about making mead. Mead takes 1-2 gallons to produce 5 gallons of mead. In a SHTF situation the honey will be too valuable in America, a country that weens it's kids on high fructose corn syrup and has them addicted to sugar before kindergarten. Honey will be fucking GOLD. My Dad is pushing 89, a child of the Depression. He said there were only 2 things that were very hard to get. 1. Tires for vehicles 2. Sugar.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:21 pmOne cool thing about having a substantial apiary on your property is that you can use surplus honey to produce mead. I don't think it takes nearly as much equipment and inputs to produce mead as it does beer, but I might be wrong about that. Mead is nasty, though.
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Appalachia back in the colonial days was about as rough as you can expect in such a scenario, and alcohol bartering was so important that whiskey became the currency here.C-Mag wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:28 pmI laugh at JWR born again Christian preppers that say don't barter in alcohol, drugs, etc. I would definitely do alcohol, not drugs because I don't have them and don't know the culture. But beer, hells yeah.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:00 pm
I was wondering about that. You can get a brewing system likely relatively cheap from a failed brewery these days when they sell off their assets. If you just built a light structure that was powered and had some kind of air conditioning to maintain temperatures, I wonder how many acres of crops you'd need to produce beer for bartering and maybe even selling? You'd still need some kind of granaries, as well, I guess.
The brewery waste I know you can use to feed compost worms to create vermi castings that are really, really good compost material for your vegetable plots.
Seems like a steep initial investment, but I see people making similar investments in stupid shit like complex water systems and whatnot.
Quick math on beer. 75 lbs barley for one barrel of beer (31 gallons). 1 acre barley, dry land 35 bushels to the acre, irrigated 50 bushels to the acre. Barley weight is 48 lbs per bushell.
1 acre avg yield 42 bushels. 42 bushels X 48 lbs = 2,016 lbs
2016 lbs divided by 75 lbs per barrel = 26.9 barrels
26.9 barrels X 31 gal/barrel = 833 gallons of beer
That's the first time I wrote out the math. I previously did it in my head and missed a digit, I was thinking around 85 gallons. Crap, that's a lot of beer.
Alcohol is not just useful for drunkards either. It can be used as fuel or antiseptic.