Net Neutrality

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by StCapps » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:00 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:56 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:59 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:25 am
Government intervention to keep the phone companies from disconnecting people for saying things phone companies don't like on calls is communism.

Listen to yourself.
More like government intervention in radio and television which leads to shit tons of censorship, listen to yourself.

Not even remotely the same thing. Nonsense.
Yes it is, you just got duped by idiotic arguments that pretend it's what you think it is. It is not, Fake Net Neutrality is obvious to anyone with a brain.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by brewster » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:27 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Fake Net Neutrality is obvious to anyone with a brain.
No, there's nothing there but your fevered imagination. Has the FCC regulating telephones meant your calls are censored? The camels nose theory is bullshit. Regulating markets and regulating content are 2 separate things. How can insuring equality of access for all users mean censorship?
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by StCapps » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:39 pm

brewster wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:27 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Fake Net Neutrality is obvious to anyone with a brain.
No, there's nothing there but your fevered imagination. Has the FCC regulating telephones meant your calls are censored? The camels nose theory is bullshit. Regulating markets and regulating content are 2 separate things. How can insuring equality of access for all users mean censorship?
Dude look at FCC regulation of radio and television, you can't trust the FCC to not censor shit, if you do, you're a moron.

"Ensuring quality of access" is a euphemism for only the big IPs get to run the internet because the smaller IP competition can't "ensure quality of access" without following burdensome regulations, it's to maintain the oligopoly. It will not hurt the big IPs and protect users, the way it is sold, it will help the big IPs stave off potential competitors, even more than they already can, so users will have less choices except the already established major players who can afford to follow the regulations while their competition cannot.

You've been sold a lie. You aren't sticking it to Comcast, Comcast will benefit and have their position in the market solidified even more.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by pineapplemike » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:53 pm

So the FCC won't let me be
Or let me be me, so let me see
They try to shut me down on MTV
But it feels so empty without me

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by StCapps » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:59 pm



Yeah trust those guys to regulate the internet, they won't censor anything.....
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:00 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:39 pm
brewster wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:27 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Fake Net Neutrality is obvious to anyone with a brain.
No, there's nothing there but your fevered imagination. Has the FCC regulating telephones meant your calls are censored? The camels nose theory is bullshit. Regulating markets and regulating content are 2 separate things. How can insuring equality of access for all users mean censorship?
Dude look at FCC regulation of radio and television, you can't trust the FCC to not censor shit, if you do, you're a moron.

"Ensuring quality of access" is a euphemism for only the big IPs get to run the internet because the smaller IP competition can't "ensure quality of access" without following burdensome regulations, it's to maintain the oligopoly. It will not hurt the big IPs and protect users, the way it is sold, it will help the big IPs stave off potential competitors, even more than they already can, so users will have less choices except the already established major players who can afford to follow the regulations while their competition cannot.

You've been sold a lie. You aren't sticking it to Comcast, Comcast will benefit and have their position in the market solidified even more.
No.

Radio and television bandwidth were limited. The FCC regulated who got to use the limited public commons that was the radio spectrum.

There is no such thing for internet access. It's like your phone lines (literally used to run on them too).

Instead of just making these dumbass assertions, try to actually form an argument to defend them. At least try to do that in your head and you can save us this waste of our lives reading this shit.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by StCapps » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:04 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:00 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:39 pm
brewster wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:27 pm

No, there's nothing there but your fevered imagination. Has the FCC regulating telephones meant your calls are censored? The camels nose theory is bullshit. Regulating markets and regulating content are 2 separate things. How can insuring equality of access for all users mean censorship?
Dude look at FCC regulation of radio and television, you can't trust the FCC to not censor shit, if you do, you're a moron.

"Ensuring quality of access" is a euphemism for only the big IPs get to run the internet because the smaller IP competition can't "ensure quality of access" without following burdensome regulations, it's to maintain the oligopoly. It will not hurt the big IPs and protect users, the way it is sold, it will help the big IPs stave off potential competitors, even more than they already can, so users will have less choices except the already established major players who can afford to follow the regulations while their competition cannot.

You've been sold a lie. You aren't sticking it to Comcast, Comcast will benefit and have their position in the market solidified even more.
No.

Radio and television bandwidth were limited. The FCC regulated who got to use the limited public commons that was the radio spectrum.

There is no such thing for internet access. It's like your phone lines (literally used to run on them too).

Instead of just making these dumbass assertions, try to actually form an argument to defend them. At least try to do that in your head and you can save us this waste of our lives reading this shit.
So? You think they will let unlimited bandwidth keep them from censoring shit? That ain't how the FCC rolls, you trust literally the most censorious government agency to not censor people, what an asinine argument. Just when I think you can't get any dumber, you find a way.

The FCC empowers those with market share, and undercuts small competition, yet you also trust them to stick it to Comcast and facilitate more competition among IP's? Derp.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:07 pm

I think you need to form an argument to defend this dumbass hypothesis so you can work out for yourself how stupid it is.

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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by StCapps » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:08 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:07 pm
I think you need to form an argument to defend this dumbass hypothesis so you can work out for yourself how stupid it is.
I think no amount of reasoning will convince you that the FCC isn't your friend. It's as plain as day to anyone who knows anything about the FCC, you just put your fingers in your ears and trust the most notorious government censors to protect free speech. You trust the foxes to guard the hen house, you're that stupid.
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Re: Net Neutrality

Post by brewster » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:10 pm

StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:39 pm
brewster wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:27 pm
StCapps wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:00 pm
Fake Net Neutrality is obvious to anyone with a brain.
No, there's nothing there but your fevered imagination. Has the FCC regulating telephones meant your calls are censored? The camels nose theory is bullshit. Regulating markets and regulating content are 2 separate things. How can insuring equality of access for all users mean censorship?
Dude look at FCC regulation of radio and television, you can't trust the FCC to not censor shit, if you do, you're a moron.

"Ensuring quality of access" is a euphemism for only the big IPs get to run the internet because the smaller IP competition can't "ensure quality of access" without following burdensome regulations, it's to maintain the oligopoly. It will not hurt the big IPs and protect users, the way it is sold, it will help the big IPs stave off potential competitors, even more than they already can, so users will have less choices except the already established major players who can afford to follow the regulations while their competition cannot.

You've been sold a lie. You aren't sticking it to Comcast, Comcast will benefit and have their position in the market solidified even more.
So the FCC has traditionally censored broadcast for obscenity. Big fucking deal. They have had a MUCH bigger wheelhouse than that! Telecom, bandwidths, all sorts of things, but you only care about the 7 words you can't say? How does net neutrality itself, not what you imagine it might open the door to like "burdensome reguations", but just net neutrality, give away the store to big IP's? This isn't about competition between IP's at all, it's about competition between content providers.
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND