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Re: 2020 election

Post by C-Mag » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:19 pm

You say the 10 point drop is from an announcement boost. How do you know it's not because he's Creepy Joe with a 10 year old.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:00 am

C-Mag wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:19 pm
You say the 10 point drop is from an announcement boost. How do you know it's not because he's Creepy Joe with a 10 year old.

We're all posting our own take on these candidates.
Not even a 10 point drop, its an eight point drop, so basically its return to normalcy, not an actual drop, like I say his numbers are still up slightly from two months ago, and the boost after announcement was expected and fading of that boost also expected.

Sanders has also dropped, like actually dropped from two months ago. Bidens distance from the next closest contender has barely changed at all over the last few months, there has been very little movement in the long term trend, and the slight drop off from the high water mark has not been buoying any other candidate, in fact Biden is in a better position now than before he announced.

Biden ate into Bernies support with the announcement boost and since it faded Bernie hasnt gotten the support back, hes just lost support in general. Thats only real movement there has been. Biden still sitting quite pretty by any objective analysis at this point, claiming hes done now at this moment makes no sense at all.

I know its not because of Creepy Uncle Joe with a ten year old, because no Democrats are acting outraged about it, his opponents arent pouncing on it, they dont even mention it, and he was due for a slight drop off from the lower forties right around this point in time. If you want to think Biden with the 10 year old is the reason, you arent paying attention and are clearly using confirmation bias googles to look at the situation.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Fife » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:43 am

If we learned anything important in 2016, it is to trust the polls.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by Fife » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:58 am

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Re: 2020 election

Post by Hastur » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:14 am

Fife wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:58 am
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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:15 am

Fife wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:43 am
If we learned anything important in 2016, it is to trust the polls.
I don't trust the polls much either, but if the polling average is off by more than 15 points, that would be unprecedented, and there is zero reason to believe that is the case, just because the polling average was off by 3 points in 2016.

The polls would have to be five times less accurate than in 2016 for Biden to be in a close race, the chances of that, are unlikely at best. If you want to disregard all polling data just because they were off by 3 points in 2016, so they literally mean nothing, that seems to be a really weird position to take. You should have less faith in the polls, but no faith whatsoever in a polling aggregate, to the point of ignoring it completely, that's just overkill.

What you should have learned in 2016, is that if polls are off by the margin of error, that can completely fuck up any political prognostications in swing states that are close, but the lesson was not that you can't trust that a candidate up by over 15 points on aggregate is the frontrunner because they were off by 3 points in 2016, that was not the lesson of 2016.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:20 am

Papa Joe is gonna win and push through progressive items. You should be happy.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:24 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:20 am
Papa Joe is gonna win and push through progressive items. You should be happy.

Automation with Free Government Benefits that can't be fulfilled is exactly what we need - this will speed things along nicely.
He won't beat Trump. Fake News.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:25 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:24 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:20 am
Papa Joe is gonna win and push through progressive items. You should be happy.

Automation with Free Government Benefits that can't be fulfilled is exactly what we need - this will speed things along nicely.
He won't beat Trump. Fake News.
Pretty confident there Capps...

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:41 am

Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:25 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:24 am
Zlaxer wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:20 am
Papa Joe is gonna win and push through progressive items. You should be happy.

Automation with Free Government Benefits that can't be fulfilled is exactly what we need - this will speed things along nicely.
He won't beat Trump. Fake News.
Pretty confident there Capps...
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