Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by brewster » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:22 pm

C-Mag wrote:
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Nucleus colony. It's just a small box with about five shallow frames in it, with a queen and bees that have accepted her.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by TheReal_ND » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:37 pm

brewster wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:22 pm
C-Mag wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:51 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 12:21 pm
Nucleus colony. It's just a small box with about five shallow frames in it, with a queen and bees that have accepted her.
I'm smarter now than I was a few minutes ago, thanks.
Nope, just slightly less ignorant. Common mistake.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:56 am

I thought if a cool mobile game. Imagine a game were you set up a Langstroth hive and manage the colony. Allocate so many eggs and try to optimize the workers, etc.

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:12 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:56 am
I thought if a cool mobile game. Imagine a game were you set up a Langstroth hive and manage the colony. Allocate so many eggs and try to optimize the workers, etc.
SimAnt.

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Post by Hastur » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:24 am

Was it someone here that turned me onto this bee wrangler channel? I don't remember.

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Jun 08, 2019 2:19 pm

Now is the time - both to plant food, and to prepare to purchase your homestead.

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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:00 am

Any opinions on the feasibility of converting pasture or woodlands to farmland?

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:05 am

Almost might be a good time to consider a business that does nothing but convert land to farmland, whether it be abandoned suburbs, forests, or pastures. Local food production has to come back before peak oil, and you might be able to offset costs to the customers by gaining rights to timber and recycling.

in the midwest you could go the opposite direction and focus on rewilding the vast corporate land holdings that are not sustainable after peak oil.

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Post by C-Mag » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:06 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:05 am
Almost might be a good time to consider a business that does nothing but convert land to farmland, whether it be abandoned suburbs, forests, or pastures. Local food production has to come back before peak oil, and you might be able to offset costs to the customers by gaining rights to timber and recycling.

in the midwest you could go the opposite direction and focus on rewilding the vast corporate land holdings that are not sustainable after peak oil.
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Re: Preparing for Uncertainty and Self Reliance

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:18 am

I am not expert here, so this is just me thinking out loud.. but..

For most small cities and towns, the colonization of these regions by Yankees resulted in the original surrounding farmland being converted into degenerate suburb-like neighborhoods across the Southland. I'd imagine something similar happened out west. To transition back to local food production, we'd have to use unrestricted wooded lands and former pastures (horse farms for the wealthy being another form of useless colonization).


The ability to get the existing horse farms out of here, or force the shitty liberal suburb colonies to be depopulated, is drastically limited. So you are basically stuck with unrestricted land that is mostly wooded. So, to cover the costs of rolling in with tractors to remove the trees, you need to be able to at least recover the costs of moving the tractors and fueling them (as well as labor to remove the trees) from lumber sales. The lumber market is tricky, so you'd have to time it well. You might be able to subcontract this work with foresting contractors.

Some of the lumber you cannot sell maybe you could burn before a rainstorm to create biochar that you can spread about to further remediate the soil.

You then need to level the land at least in rectangles corresponding to slightly larger than a medium or large field in intensive farming practices. That's going to be the biggest amount of work.

After that, you have to take your soil analysis and figure out what kinds of cover crops need to be planted to get the soil working.

Then there are lots of little questions, like till or no till?