Public School Education System Thread

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Post by C-Mag » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:37 am

Fife wrote:
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"Saving" the government schools seems like a great idea, huh?
Betsy DeVos as supposed to have destroyed public schools by now...……………. I'm still waiting.


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Post by Fife » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:39 am

IRL, one at least has the option of fleeing (or attempting to flee) from a bully without resorting to violence or being violated.

In the government school-childrens' prison system, there is no escape. Take it passively, or lash out, and then take it anyway.

The bullies include the prison guards, the wardens, AND the fellow inmates. No options are allowed in compulsory prison or in slave camps.

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Post by C-Mag » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:45 am

Here's an example of how the sick fuckers force indoctrination.

My wife is an elementary Librarian, K-5. They send her a fiction book, written for kids, on how wonderful being transgender is, how great choosing your gender is, etc. The book won some award for youth lit. The education rules state that librarians must promote award winning lit. So, the sneaky fuckers can force their ideas by writing books on their propaganda and then giving them awards.

My wife has read the book and does not want to even put this thing in her library let alone promote it. Because she's seen first hand the damage that can happen to kids 5-12 years old that play wiht transgender shit. She went to her principal and said that she felt this was not K-5 material. She's gotten support from the principal who thinks its equally crazy. The book will be available, but not taught.
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Post by GloryofGreece » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:13 pm

1) Leftist propaganda
2) Too many students in classrooms
3) No skin in the game
4) No consistent discpline / student-parent accountability
5) PR rules the roost
6) Too much redtape
7) No creative control of your work
8) School days too long
9) Not enough emphasis on trades/cte
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:39 am

I know a Christian woman who homeschooled her kids. Her oldest wants to go to the Naval Academy, so he wanted to get a record in a private school. Two of them tested there. Her kids vastly out-performed all schools in the area, private and government.

Interestingly, she applied for a teaching position at the same time. She was not hired because she had too little "teaching experience" -- as her kids just scored better than the rest.

No matter what, a motivated mother, with local educational resources, can outperform most any private school short of an intensive and elite boarding school.

That is where we really fucked up. It is not just the stark contrast between Marxist government schools and parochial education. American youth, by and large, have no real mother figure, no solid home as a foundation for anything, and many do not even have intact families.

Then we convinced three generations of women that the most important role they could fulfill (and a critical role for civilization), is garbage and if they pursue it then they are failures.

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Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:23 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:39 am
I know a Christian woman who homeschooled her kids. Her oldest wants to go to the Naval Academy, so he wanted to get a record in a private school. Two of them tested there. Her kids vastly out-performed all schools in the area, private and government.

Interestingly, she applied for a teaching position at the same time. She was not hired because she had too little "teaching experience" -- as her kids just scored better than the rest.

No matter what, a motivated mother, with local educational resources, can outperform most any private school short of an intensive and elite boarding school.

That is where we really fucked up. It is not just the stark contrast between Marxist government schools and parochial education. American youth, by and large, have no real mother figure, no solid home as a foundation for anything, and many do not even have intact families.

Then we convinced three generations of women that the most important role they could fulfill (and a critical role for civilization), is garbage and if they pursue it then they are failures.
That's the cultural issue for sure. And it's huge. My bullet points were the issue in the schools themselves . I do think there's utility in having schools and that not all mom's can or should have to teach their kids until they are 18. Certainly you could make an argument that we should all basically be homesteaders and not have any real commerce or " civilization" and so on but I think there would be a need for outsourcing your academic education for most people. It's to the degree and amount that's the question IMO.

Do you think it was mostly to the benefit of corporate America and deflating the dollar that was behind getting women into the workforce in Mass and staying g there especially in the 1970s and then no one could really afford to be a single income house with family ? Like was it a cabal and real thing to disrupt the family so the centralized state would become all encompasing , or was it again just a consequence of decreasing purchasing power and ofuscsting the decline by increasing credit and having two incomes without any conspiracy behind it ?
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:33 am

GloryofGreece wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:23 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:39 am
I know a Christian woman who homeschooled her kids. Her oldest wants to go to the Naval Academy, so he wanted to get a record in a private school. Two of them tested there. Her kids vastly out-performed all schools in the area, private and government.

Interestingly, she applied for a teaching position at the same time. She was not hired because she had too little "teaching experience" -- as her kids just scored better than the rest.

No matter what, a motivated mother, with local educational resources, can outperform most any private school short of an intensive and elite boarding school.

That is where we really fucked up. It is not just the stark contrast between Marxist government schools and parochial education. American youth, by and large, have no real mother figure, no solid home as a foundation for anything, and many do not even have intact families.

Then we convinced three generations of women that the most important role they could fulfill (and a critical role for civilization), is garbage and if they pursue it then they are failures.
That's the cultural issue for sure. And it's huge. My bullet points were the issue in the schools themselves . I do think there's utility in having schools and that not all mom's can or should have to teach their kids until they are 18. Certainly you could make an argument that we should all basically be homesteaders and not have any real commerce or " civilization" and so on but I think there would be a need for outsourcing your academic education for most people. It's to the degree and amount that's the question IMO.

Do you think it was mostly to the benefit of corporate America and deflating the dollar that was behind getting women into the workforce in Mass and staying g there especially in the 1970s and then no one could really afford to be a single income house with family ? Like was it a cabal and real thing to disrupt the family so the centralized state would become all encompasing , or was it again just a consequence of decreasing purchasing power and ofuscsting the decline by increasing credit and having two incomes without any conspiracy behind it ?

1. Many mothers are unsuitable to raise children (and indeed most young women today are not even acceptable for marriage at all) because we raise women to be so toxic and destructive in the first place. For every "daddy's princess" there is a dumbass father creating this catastrophe.

2. Government pushed women into the workplace because they cannot otherwise tax domestic life. Now they can tax day care labor, teaching labor, etc., and they can even indoctrinate children.

3. Corporations and their neocuck minions obviously supported it because it doubled the labor force and completely sabotaged wages and salaries for decades now. People used to live middle class lives with only a high school-educated father working. Women going to work and mass immigration destroyed the American dream.

4. Women did not even benefit. They tell themselves how free they are from their biological and traditional gender roles, but they continue to get more miserable as they make more "progress" to those ends. A huge percentage of women are not cut out for this. They would otherwise be relegated to working hard labor jobs or becoming homeless as men would, but instead go on welfare, further destroying our society.

Most single mothers are the maladapted fallout from the "liberation" of women. These are women who's optimal life course was to marry a good man after they turned 18 and raise a family.

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Re: Public School Education System Thread

Post by Fife » Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:55 am

The Jacobins, Marx, and Wilson had a fantastic vision of worldwide war fought on their behalf by slaves and useful idiots.

War is the health of the state, and industrial war only really works outside of outright slavery when government education is involuntary and totalitarian.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:14 am

Doubling the labor pool had a wonderful effect on labor costs.
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Post by clubgop » Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:13 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:14 am
Doubling the labor pool had a wonderful effect on labor costs.
Now do open borders.