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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:37 pm

LMFAO

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:39 pm

Mitt Biden, that's what this is. You're "2016 was a gamechanger and no primary will ever be the same" theory is pure hogwash. Joe Romney has no competition, you'll see.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:43 pm

Jeb 2.0 more like it.

Mitt is a massive cunt, but he at least had ideas. He wasn't just a suit. Biden, like Jeb, is running on a name. He's just a suit. There's no there there.

Ideas and identity matter. Biden has neither. He's an old white guy (major deficit in the dem primary). He has no ideas. He's Jeb.

Sanders has a lot of ideas to debate, but he's sort of like a Ron Paul. I am not sure he is going to get much traction outside of his little cult following. Most of what we saw in the 2016 primary was a protest vote when there was literally no other person to vote for if you hated Hillary.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:48 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:43 pm
Jeb 2.0 more like it.

Mitt is a massive cunt, but he at least had ideas. He wasn't just a suit. Biden, like Jeb, is running on a name. He's just a suit. There's no there there.

Ideas and identity matter. Biden has neither. He's an old white guy (major deficit in the dem primary). He has no ideas. He's Jeb.
Jeb only lost because of Trump, not because anyone with "ideas" would have beaten him. Your analysis assumes there is a Trump in the 2020 Dem field, but there isn't.

Biden is weak sure, but everyone else is far weaker, so what does that even matter? Answer: it doesn't.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:51 pm

Uh huh. You keep repeating television news nonsense. If I wanted NPC Today talk, I'd turn on Fox News or CNN.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:53 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:51 pm
Uh huh. You keep repeating television news nonsense. If I wanted NPC Today talk, I'd turn on Fox News or CNN.
You keep repeating wishful thinking nonsense. Just because you want Biden to lose, doesn't mean he's going to lose, especially to your "ideas" candidates who don't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning the Democrat Primary.

Ain't no Trump in the 2020 Dem field dude, doesn't take a genius to see that.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:57 pm

StCapps wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:53 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:51 pm
Uh huh. You keep repeating television news nonsense. If I wanted NPC Today talk, I'd turn on Fox News or CNN.
You keep repeating wishful thinking nonsense. Just because you want Biden to lose, doesn't mean he's going to lose, especially to your "ideas" candidates who don't stand a snowballs chance in hell of winning the Democrat Primary.
Are you high-posting right now? I am not engaging in wishful thinking. I literally don't give a shit who wins the democratic nomination. I am telling you how it is. Biden is not going to win anything.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:58 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:57 pm
Biden is not going to win anything.
What if he does? Then where will you move the goalposts?
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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:02 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:57 pm
I am telling you how it is. Biden is not going to win anything.
You are telling me how you wish it was. You think Trump beating Jeb and Hillary is a sign that the Gabbard's and Yang's of the world can win against Biden, as if any ideas candidate can beat any establishment candidate.

You are going to find out that Trump won because he's Donald Fucking Trump, and that any candidate with "ideas" can't pull off what Trump did, that ain't how it works.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by brewster » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:54 pm

StCapps wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:02 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:57 pm
I am telling you how it is. Biden is not going to win anything.
You are telling me how you wish it was. You think Trump beating Jeb and Hillary is a sign that the Gabbard's and Yang's of the world can win against Biden, as if any ideas candidate can beat any establishment candidate.

You are going to find out that Trump won because he's Donald Fucking Trump, and that any candidate with "ideas" can't pull off what Trump did, that ain't how it works.
I'm confused. Jeb got 4 electoral votes and 6th place. Why making him out to have been in the race at all? Cruz got 556. Trump won because he was playing a reality TV game show, not being a politician, since he wasn't and still isn't.

Biden will fade away as soon as there's nothing more for the media to buzz about on his entrance to the race. Old white guy with no distinct message and way too long a record in govt. Not that I disagree with his centrist views, it's just that they won't keep anyone's attention. He is the Jeb of the moment. There will be more flashbacks to 2016 as the media seizes on another darling for a moment and then we winnow the pool.

The big reveal of 2020 will be whether Trump has permanently lowered the bar on qualification, faux pas, and all the other stuff that has traditionally damaged candidates. Does anyone really care about Biden being a bit touchy after Trump boasts of 'grabbing them by the pussy'? Or will the Dems go the other way like when they threw Franken under the bus? (Fuck that bitch Gillibrand)
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