Urban vs. Rural; What's to be done?

[Speaker to Animals]

You know how they constantly threaten to boycott us if we don't kill unborn babies or expose our children to degenerate filth?

I wonder what would happen if we cut them off from the food.

Which.. that's not far-fetched if you think about it. The vast majority of farming is that fragile factory farming using the exact same seeds, pesticides, and fertilizers. Anything that goes wrong with the Monsanto seeds, or the pesticides and fertilizers (peak oil would do it), means producing food in that way is no longer viable. That is not even considering the energy costs of transporting everything to the cities.

Most small and independent farms supply to local markets. We'd be fine. But the cities would be fucked. It does not even have to be us deliberately starving them out either. Monsanto alone could do it, and we will "refuse to hand over our 'fair share' of food yields to the cities".

War.

[C-Mag]

Most small and independent farms supply to local markets. We'd be fine. But the cities would be fucked. It does not even have to be us deliberately starving them out either. Monsanto alone could do it, and we will "refuse to hand over our 'fair share' of food yields to the cities".

War.

The cities would be fucked. But I wouldn't say rural folks would be fine. We would certainly be in better shape, we'd survive better, but I wouldn't say fine. You correctly point out that we've stove piped and reduced diversity of food production and that affects all of us. Isn't Sisco like the only restaurant supplier in the country now? If not, it's damn close. So my little greasy spoon down the road is serving a lot of the same shit as the restaurant in NYC. Kind the same with big grocery chains, and we rely on that too in our grocery stores.

However rural folks have local food production, mine is really local, some on the window sill, the rest walking out the door. But it would be pretty hard scrabble for me to survive on what I'm growing now, and what I could produce by the time my larder ran dry. It wouldn't be fine.

[GloryofGreece]

Supply chain logistics are boring to me but critical. I would imagine a disruption would be disasterous to most even rural people. The cities wouldn't go gently into the night either. War is right. Your talking guerilla assyrmectrical fourth or whatever generation war type shit. Would the federals carpet bomb us?

[C-Mag]

Supply chain logistics are boring to me but critical. I would imagine a disruption would be disasterous to most even rural people. The cities wouldn't go gently into the night either. War is right. Your talking guerilla assyrmectrical fourth or whatever generation war type shit. Would the federals carpet bomb us?

+1

No, the cities would not go gentle, and they hold the vast majority of the political capital to get Uncle Sam to do what they want. I would imagine the Feds would federalize food and farms. I think the avenue has been in place since FDR.

[Speaker to Animals]

The critical question is whether we should feed ourselves first, and urbanites only after all of us eat.

Imagine the arrogant little shits like Brewster if this happened. They'd likely want to send troops to seize the food from us.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think it depends on your location most of all. I already feel terrible for the agricultural communities in California. But if this happened, they'd likely be all but enslaved. As it is, they have their local resources, especially water, literally plundered out from beneath them because the cities control the state government.

If you think about it, the state governments would be your first line of defense, but the state governments still have cities to serve within their borders. Here in North Carolina, we have Charlotte and a few other cities that would get prioritized. But the state legislature would likely block food exports out of the state.

A Monsanto catastrophe, actually, is a prepping situation I have never seen wargamed out by preppers.

[C-Mag]

A Monsanto catastrophe, actually, is a prepping situation I have never seen wargamed out by preppers.

No one talks much about a crisis beginning with a food chain collapse. It's not unthinkable that it could happen with as much genetic tinkering as is going on. Look at Pharma, happens all the time.
Whoops! I guess this kills people.

It's not a big mystery what would happen in food shortages, look at Venezuela. Early, early on in this the government took control of the food.
https://www.naturalnews.com/050695_Vene ... upply.html

Governments also freeze the price of commodities in crisis.

[Speaker to Animals]

A Monsanto catastrophe, actually, is a prepping situation I have never seen wargamed out by preppers.

No one talks much about a crisis beginning with a food chain collapse. It's not unthinkable that it could happen with as much genetic tinkering as is going on. Look at Pharma, happens all the time.
Whoops! I guess this kills people.

It's not a big mystery what would happen in food shortages, look at Venezuela. Early, early on in this the government took control of the food.
https://www.naturalnews.com/050695_Vene ... upply.html

Governments also freeze the price of commodities in crisis.

They also call people who save and put food away in a larder "hoarders".

I'd imagine the liberals would all vote to socialize our personal food larders.

[C-Mag]

If I remember correctly FDR signed a law that allows the government to any food they want.

[Fife]

Wickard v. Filburn

Search this forum for that case, there's prolly some decent commentary. Then hit Google.