Urban vs. Rural; What's to be done?

[PartyOf5]

You never looked at my links did you ?
Because if you had, you would have seen this interactive map
https://thediggings.com/usa/california/ ... -ca037/map

And you would have seen I already provided you proof there there are mines in Los Angeles city mining Titanium, Gold, Lead and Flourine among others

Now you going to admit your mouth outkicked your coverage ?

I did look at the link. I'm not an expert on mining, but I did manage to figure out from the interactive map that at least 90% of what is shown are closed. I have yet to find a single one that isn't classified as "not significant". The view outlines Los Angeles county,but not the city itself, which makes determining if it really is in LA (the city) more difficult.

[brewster]

So what you're saying is that more people leads to more waste and a greater negative effect on the environment.

In. That. Spot. Not per capita.

Prove it.

Don't need to, I wasn't the one making broad unsubstantiated claims based on nothing more than optics.

[C-Mag]

Nice Goal Posts you have there


Finding one active mine, 10 closed ones or 1000 oil rigs isn't the point. The point is that cities destroy ecosystems almost completely. I provided plenty of info on what happened to the Los Angeles River.


Cities are doing damn little to right their ecological crimes because while leaders will talk big shit about the environment and climate change, if another freeway needs to go through to serve the latest Trump Tower they are going to do it. These leaders need to fix their local ecosystems before they tell me I need to pay some fucking carbon tax.

Don't shit in your own bed and then tell me I have to help clean it up.

[brewster]

You argument amounts to this- you show a photo of a place with 70k people per sq mi, and note it's dirtier than a place with 1 person per sq mi. The question is: is it 150k times dirtier, 70k times dirtier or only 30k times? If you have no idea, you have no argument besides your personal taste.

[C-Mag]

You argument amounts to this- you show a photo of a place with 70k people per sq mi, and note it's dirtier than a place with 1 person per sq mi. The question is: is it 150k times dirtier, 70k times dirtier or only 30k times? If you have no idea, you have no argument besides your personal taste.

Hey, progress. Yes, cities are full of concentrated waste. Look at what Victoria, BC just did, they sent all their trash to Singapore. As far as waste goes, my case is they are irresponsible for handling their concentrated wealth.

But no, that's not my only argument. The Los Angeles River ecosystem destruction is another example. Wholesale ecosystem destruction.

[brewster]

Cities destroy the ecosystem that they lie on. Duh. But by concentrating all those people in one spot they spare many other ecosystems. You seem to have a problem forming an argument that doesn't exist in a vacuum. A complete argument would present a viable alternative that plausibly resolves the issue that you are disturbed by without creating other issues equally bad or worse. I include mass murder as worse, perhaps not all of you do.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yet the rest of us don't destroy our ecosystems. LOL

[TheReal_ND]

I don't really get all the hate on cities myself. Cities could be great. Not that I like any of them. I've seen some that were once great though. I think the demographics are the real issue with cities. Leave aside the fact they attract liberals of the worse sort but just imagine if they were populated with people of European descent almost exclusively. You would have nice cities then. Historically cities have been hot beds of crime sure but what's a little crime? Imagine living in a burough populated with your closest kin. Walking around or riding a bike to get where you need. A nice community with a church everyone goes to. That's what cities are supposed to be. Cities could be great things. Historically they have always been the greatest things. Hopefully someday they will be great things again. But I don't think so.

[TheReal_ND]

I lived in LA for a couple years. Not my cup of tea tbh. Even if it wasn't 90% Hispanic and 50% African American it would still be a lame city. Too spread out and block after block of uninspired strip mall style shops. Nice subway system though.

San Francisco. Could have been a great city. Has a unique charm about it. Now it's full of drug addicts and homos doing unspeakable acts against nature in public.

Seattle is beautiful. But look at how it's dying now.

Vancouver is beautiful to behold. Now it's overrun by foreigners.

Chicago. A majestic city of cold brutal strength against the elements. Overrun with criminal gangs. Heh. Guess nothing's changed.

Houston. Terrible city tbh.

Dalls. Fuck Dallas tbh.

Austin. Absolutely top notch city but it's swarmed with gender queer antifa now.

NYC, never been and you will never get me to go.

Philly, actually a decent city. I can't think of anything wrong with it. Demographics are still ok by American standards but the steel mills are all closing.

Tulsa, nice. Full of boomers. Same with Santa Fe. Actually Santa Fe is beautiful.

OKC is haunted and looks like it's deserted. I think it's haunted but it is like 80% white so there is that.

Boise is nice but getting beaned.

SLC is great tbh.

Boulder is full of rich fucks but it's nice. Denver is kind of a dump but I like the way it looks weathered. Demographics is ok.

Idk I like a lot of cities just not the one I'm in.

[Speaker to Animals]

HOG Butcher for the World,
Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat,
Player with Railroads and the Nation's Freight Handler;
Stormy, husky, brawling,
City of the Big Shoulders:

They tell me you are wicked and I believe them, for I
have seen your painted women under the gas lamps
luring the farm boys.
And they tell me you are crooked and I answer: Yes, it
is true I have seen the gunman kill and go free to
kill again.
And they tell me you are brutal and my reply is: On the
faces of women and children I have seen the marks
of wanton hunger.
And having answered so I turn once more to those who
sneer at this my city, and I give them back the sneer
and say to them:
Come and show me another city with lifted head singing
so proud to be alive and coarse and strong and cunning.
Flinging magnetic curses amid the toil of piling job on
job, here is a tall bold slugger set vivid against the
little soft cities;

Fierce as a dog with tongue lapping for action, cunning
as a savage pitted against the wilderness,
Bareheaded,
Shoveling,
Wrecking,
Planning,
Building, breaking, rebuilding,
Under the smoke, dust all over his mouth, laughing with
white teeth,
Under the terrible burden of destiny laughing as a young
man laughs,
Laughing even as an ignorant fighter laughs who has
never lost a battle,
Bragging and laughing that under his wrist is the pulse.
and under his ribs the heart of the people,
Laughing!
Laughing the stormy, husky, brawling laughter of
Youth, half-naked, sweating, proud to be Hog
Butcher, Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat, Player with
Railroads and Freight Handler to the Nation.














Carl Sandburg, the man who wrote that poem about his beloved Chicago, fled the city and died down the road from where I live now.