The 4th Turning - our current events

[C-Mag]

Below I'm linking a series of articles by a blogger putting the current 4th Turning into current times. He began writing the series of articles in September of 2015. When Hillary and Jeb were the frontrunners for POTUS, and Bernie and Trump were the crazy outsiders challenging the system.
Neil Howe, who co-authored the 4th Turning has read the articles and commended the Burning Platform for their work.

Part 1 Catalyst https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015 ... -of-trust/
Part 2 The Grey Champion https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015 ... ore-105369
Part 3 Economic Stress https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015 ... st-part-3/
Part 4 Social and Cultural Stress https://www.theburningplatform.com/2015 ... wards-war/

[C-Mag]

I'm back into reading on the 4th Turning. Here's my prediction for the next 12-18 months



It's gonna be wild. It will set us on the direction we are taking for the future, strap yourself in.

[Ph64]

[C-Mag]

I never watched that series, I heard they claimed DS9 was a knock off.

Kind of funny watching Neil Howe pull a Dan Carlin since the rise of Trump. I read their '92 book, and read blog entries from him in the late 90's and early 2000's. According to Straus and Howes early work, their theory would say Trump is the transformational person that will lead us into the future and set policy and direction for us for the next 80 years. Strauss died, and Howe is distancing himself and revising even his timeline. Pushing the Crisis past 2030 most recently. Originally they assigned the entry into the 4th Turning at 2008, with that period lasting 10 to 20 years, typically around 15 years. That would put the end of 4th Turning around 2023-2028 at the latest.

Howe has basically rewritten his model because of Trump, basically keeps saying Trump can't be the guy. He can't be the Washington, Lincoln, FDR type leader.

[C-Mag]

I'm back into reading on the 4th Turning. Here's my prediction for the next 12-18 months



It's gonna be wild. It will set us on the direction we are taking for the future, strap yourself in.

[C-Mag]

Strauss and Howe outlined four potential outcomes to the current Crisis.

1. Extinction Event - This Fourth Turning could mark the end of man. It could be an omnicidal Armageddon, destroying everything, leaving nothing. If mankind ever extinguishes itself, this will probably happen when its dominant civilization triggers a Fourth Turning that ends horribly. For this Fourth Turning to put an end to all this would require an extremely unlikely blend of social disaster, human malevolence, technological perfection and bad luck.

2. Societal Collapse (think Bronze Age collapse) - The Fourth Turning could mark the end of modernity. The Western saecular rhythm – which began in the mid-fifteenth century with the Renaissance – could come to an abrupt terminus. The seventh modern saeculum would be the last. This too could come from total war, terrible but not final. There could be a complete collapse of science, culture, politics, and society. Such a dire result would probably happen only when a dominant nation (like today’s America) lets a Fourth Turning ekpyrosis engulf the planet. But this outcome is well within the reach of foreseeable technology and malevolence.

3. National Collapse - The Fourth Turning could spare modernity but mark the end of our nation. It could close the book on the political constitution, popular culture, and moral standing that the word America has come to signify. The nation has endured for three saecula; Rome lasted twelve, the Soviet Union only one. Fourth Turnings are critical thresholds for national survival. Each of the last three American Crises produced moments of extreme danger: In the Revolution, the very birth of the republic hung by a thread in more than one battle. In the Civil War, the union barely survived a four-year slaughter that in its own time was regarded as the most lethal war in history. In World War II, the nation destroyed an enemy of democracy that for a time was winning; had the enemy won, America might have itself been destroyed. In all likelihood, the next Crisis will present the nation with a threat and a consequence on a similar scale.

4. Small Revolution, forged with the blood of patriots and tyrants - Or the Fourth Turning could simply mark the end of the Millennial Saeculum. Mankind, modernity, and America would all persevere. Afterward, there would be a new mood, a new High, and a new saeculum. America would be reborn. But, reborn, it would not be the same.


It is only towards the end of a 4th Turning that a “trigger event” occurs which brings on the society altering Crisis.

[Hastur]

First of all, Trump is a typical Trickster archetype figure. He ridicules the rulers, exposing their failings. He makes a fool of himself in a way that highlights the flaws of the system. He is a precursor, not the coming King. The audience is just getting warmed up. The big risk now is that a false prophet steps in after him and steals the energy.

The US is uniquely situated to make the transition into the new paradigm as smoothly as possible. The constitution still works as a foundation to build upon in the new power hierarchy. You are used to low taxes and voluntary self organized networks. Local communities will be ever more important. Many of you can do well without an omnipresent government tit to feed and console you. That will be a strength soon.

You need to stop worshiping youth and grow the fuck up. Wisdom is needed and you need to learn how to distinguish between real authority and self-serving charlatans. The death of old media can't come soon enough. That shit just has to go. It hogs the attention and attention needs to be directed elsewhere now.

[Xenophon]

First of all, Trump is a typical Trickster archetype figure. He ridicules the rulers, exposing their failings. He makes a fool of himself in a way that highlights the flaws of the system. He is a precursor, not the coming King. The audience is just getting warmed up. The big risk now is that a false prophet steps in after him and steals the energy.

The US is uniquely situated to make the transition into the new paradigm as smoothly as possible. The constitution still works as a foundation to build upon in the new power hierarchy. You are used to low taxes and voluntary self organized networks. Local communities will be ever more important. Many of you can do well without an omnipresent government tit to feed and console you. That will be a strength soon.

You need to stop worshiping youth and grow the fuck up. Wisdom is needed and you need to learn how to distinguish between real authority and self-serving charlatans. The death of old media can't come soon enough. That shit just has to go. It hogs the attention and attention needs to be directed elsewhere now.

What about my Funko pops!? REEEEE

[C-Mag]

Neil Howe speaking more plainly than ever.

' Successful Populism always moves to legitimize the center majority '

[Martin Hash]

I disagree with almost everything that guy says. Trump winning will blow him out of the water.