Civil War Doomsday Clock

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun May 12, 2019 10:27 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:23 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:18 am
You have argued many, many times that Malthusian selective pressures in northern and western Europe make those peoples uniquely suited to advanced, high-trust societies, and you have used government crime statistics concerning violent crimes from different demographics to support your argument. Pretending you haven't now is just sad.

Then, when the same government crime statistics undermine your theory, you holler "leftist conspiracy" at the top of your lungs.

I have very accurately and honestly summed up your arguments. You know it. Everyone who has read even a little MHF knows it.

Don't go slinking away from your positions just because they are absurd, inaccurate, contradictory, paranoid, and cowardly. At least have the courage of your convictions.
You are conflating different topics in attempt to save your dishonest post.

You are obviously full of shit.

The statistics, as they relate to white crime are obviously inaccurate, since we can ALL damned well see they include Hispanic crime, injected into the stats at multiple levels. None of us have accurate data on white crime rates.
Okay, chief.

Keep up the good work, super sleuth.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun May 12, 2019 10:29 am

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:27 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:23 am
Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:18 am
You have argued many, many times that Malthusian selective pressures in northern and western Europe make those peoples uniquely suited to advanced, high-trust societies, and you have used government crime statistics concerning violent crimes from different demographics to support your argument. Pretending you haven't now is just sad.

Then, when the same government crime statistics undermine your theory, you holler "leftist conspiracy" at the top of your lungs.

I have very accurately and honestly summed up your arguments. You know it. Everyone who has read even a little MHF knows it.

Don't go slinking away from your positions just because they are absurd, inaccurate, contradictory, paranoid, and cowardly. At least have the courage of your convictions.
You are conflating different topics in attempt to save your dishonest post.

You are obviously full of shit.

The statistics, as they relate to white crime are obviously inaccurate, since we can ALL damned well see they include Hispanic crime, injected into the stats at multiple levels. None of us have accurate data on white crime rates.
Okay, chief.

Keep up the good work, super sleuth.
Do you deny the fact that city, county, state, and federal law enforcement agencies sometimes or often classify Hispanic offenders as white?

If the answer is no, then you must admit the white crime stats are cooked and completely inaccurate.

If you do deny it, then you are a fucking idiot.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun May 12, 2019 10:33 am

Arguing with the shifting sands of your paranoid racial theories is a waste of time.

Have a blessed day.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by C-Mag » Sun May 12, 2019 11:18 am

Whites are quite capable of high crime rates. A century ago American cities were rife with Irish, Italian, Polish, and Jewish gangs. However not a lot of white gangs today, you could make a case for bikers. It appears blacks and Hispanics have not had the same trends, they had their 19th c gangs and violence and they still have it today. The question is why and what if anything can we do about it.

IMO, Whites stopped the bulk of that type of activity. I don't think OWG can fix black and Hispanic violence, has to be done internal to the group.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by StCapps » Sun May 12, 2019 2:06 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:29 am
Do you deny the fact that city, county, state, and federal law enforcement agencies sometimes or often classify Hispanic offenders as white?

If the answer is no, then you must admit the white crime stats are cooked and completely inaccurate.

If you do deny it, then you are a fucking idiot.
Yet, nmoore presented stats that separate the white and hispanic crime stats, to compare the rates between the two in urban and rural settings, and to show you how they compare to black crime stats in urban and rural settings, and you still pretend the whites are lumped in with hispanics, even in those stats.

You refuse to see reason, urban vs rural is far more correlative to crime rates than race dude, just quit while you're behind, stop digging the hole deeper and deeper.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by PartyOf5 » Sun May 12, 2019 5:26 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 7:33 am
PartyOf5 wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 7:31 am
Explain white-collar crime if crime is caused by poverty you moron. If you want to make a point, choose your words more carefully. You either worded your point very poorly or you are an idiot.
Point out where I said ALL crime is caused by poverty.
Nor have I ever said that words kill.
''Hate speech can lead to hate crimes'' is not saying ''words kill''.

Keep trying though, one day you'll make a fool of me rather than making a fool of yourself.
Crime is caused by poverty, not melanin levels.
Those words imply all crime, which is why I said choose your words more carefully. Moron.

In the other thread you posted a pic with signs reading "words matter" and commented on victim of a mass shooting. Again, you chose your words (and images) poorly.

Just come out and say "hate speech can lead to hate crimes" and defend that instead of trying to make yourself appear clever.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun May 12, 2019 9:18 pm

StCapps wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 2:06 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:29 am
Do you deny the fact that city, county, state, and federal law enforcement agencies sometimes or often classify Hispanic offenders as white?

If the answer is no, then you must admit the white crime stats are cooked and completely inaccurate.

If you do deny it, then you are a fucking idiot.
Yet, nmoore presented stats that separate the white and hispanic crime stats, to compare the rates between the two in urban and rural settings, and to show you how they compare to black crime stats in urban and rural settings, and you still pretend the whites are lumped in with hispanics, even in those stats.

You refuse to see reason, urban vs rural is far more correlative to crime rates than race dude, just quit while you're behind, stop digging the hole deeper and deeper.

Yet I also pointed out it is damned near impossible to calculate stats like that because Hispanics are capriciously categorized as whites at every level of government. There exists no practical means to go backwards into every single police department in America and figure out where they misassigned race, for every case in your data set.

What you have is a white+latino crime rate. Which is fucking useless. Any bullshit attempt at separating them is suspect because it's obviously impractical to do it.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by StCapps » Sun May 12, 2019 9:24 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 9:18 pm
StCapps wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 2:06 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 10:29 am
Do you deny the fact that city, county, state, and federal law enforcement agencies sometimes or often classify Hispanic offenders as white?

If the answer is no, then you must admit the white crime stats are cooked and completely inaccurate.

If you do deny it, then you are a fucking idiot.
Yet, nmoore presented stats that separate the white and hispanic crime stats, to compare the rates between the two in urban and rural settings, and to show you how they compare to black crime stats in urban and rural settings, and you still pretend the whites are lumped in with hispanics, even in those stats.

You refuse to see reason, urban vs rural is far more correlative to crime rates than race dude, just quit while you're behind, stop digging the hole deeper and deeper.

Yet I also pointed out it is damned near impossible to calculate stats like that because Hispanics are capriciously categorized as whites at every level of government. There exists no practical means to go backwards into every single police department in America and figure out where they misassigned race, for every case in your data set.

What you have is a white+latino crime rate. Which is fucking useless. Any bullshit attempt at separating them is suspect because it's obviously impractical to do it.
The stats sighted show different crime rates for Hispanics and non-Hispanic Whites, in both urban and rural environments. The stats sighted before that show Hispanics and Whites lumped in together in urban and rural areas, and compare them to blacks in urban and rural areas. Therefore you are not correct in this case, race has been accounted for, and urban vs. rural shows a much bigger correlation.
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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun May 12, 2019 9:28 pm

StCapps wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 9:24 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 9:18 pm
StCapps wrote:
Sun May 12, 2019 2:06 pm
Yet, nmoore presented stats that separate the white and hispanic crime stats, to compare the rates between the two in urban and rural settings, and to show you how they compare to black crime stats in urban and rural settings, and you still pretend the whites are lumped in with hispanics, even in those stats.

You refuse to see reason, urban vs rural is far more correlative to crime rates than race dude, just quit while you're behind, stop digging the hole deeper and deeper.

Yet I also pointed out it is damned near impossible to calculate stats like that because Hispanics are capriciously categorized as whites at every level of government. There exists no practical means to go backwards into every single police department in America and figure out where they misassigned race, for every case in your data set.

What you have is a white+latino crime rate. Which is fucking useless. Any bullshit attempt at separating them is suspect because it's obviously impractical to do it.
The stats sighted show different crime rates for Hispanics and non-Hispanic Whites, therefore you are not correct in this case.

That stat could not possibly have been accurate, for obvious reasons. If you still cannot understand why this is an impossible stat to calculate presently, then you are fucking dumb (but we already knew that).

Again: every county sheriff's department, city police department, state police agency, and every federal law enforcement agency assigns Hispanics inconsistently as white or Hispanic. There exists no uniform method of doing this, and especially in major democrat-run cities, Hispanics are almost always classified as whites when they commit serious violent crimes in order to keep the "white" crime stats high. It's fucking stupid to claim you can somehow untangle the deliberately confounded numbers coming out of every single police department and agency in the United States.

Just straight-up fucking dumb.

If you actually believe a stat like that, knowing full well how inconsistent and fucking dishonest the reporting is at every level, then you too are fucking dumb.

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Re: Civil War Doomsday Clock

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun May 12, 2019 9:30 pm

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Just take this ass-whipping and learn from it for a change.

I am self-evidently correct here. You cannot come up with an accurate white crime rate in America. It's ludicrous to pretend as if you can.