Civil War Doomsday Clock

[Montegriffo]

I thought crime was caused by people.

Oh what I have learned from the wise Brit this weekend. People don't commit crimes, poverty does. Also, words kill so let's ban words.

Don't understand the concept of underlying causes?

Explain white-collar crime if crime is caused by poverty you moron. If you want to make a point, choose your words more carefully. You either worded your point very poorly or you are an idiot.

Point out where I said ALL crime is caused by poverty.
Nor have I ever said that words kill.
''Hate speech can lead to hate crimes'' is not saying ''words kill''.

Keep trying though, one day you'll make a fool of me rather than making a fool of yourself.

[Speaker to Animals]

I am aware you don't have a good answer for the massive change is black violence based on urban versus rural.

"White" in those statistics includes nonwhite Americans. It is not a legitimate argument. Every time a Latino commits a crime they record that as a white.

The Empire of Nothing is nothing if not laughable.

Non-Hispanic Urban: 60.9
Hispanic Urban: 51.7
Hispanic Rural: 46.5
Non Hispanic rural 33.7


Seriously. Be a better hack.

The subject was black folks not hispanics and how the current poor illegal immigration system might skew their data.

Good. Now look at actual crime stats for whites compared to blacks (without Hispanics coy ted as white)... LOL

[nmoore63]

"White" in those statistics includes nonwhite Americans. It is not a legitimate argument. Every time a Latino commits a crime they record that as a white.

The Empire of Nothing is nothing if not laughable.

Non-Hispanic Urban: 60.9
Hispanic Urban: 51.7
Hispanic Rural: 46.5
Non Hispanic rural 33.7


Seriously. Be a better hack.

The subject was black folks not hispanics and how the current poor illegal immigration system might skew their data.

Good. Now look at actual crime stats for whites compared to blacks (without Hispanics coy ted as white)... LOL

you’ve already been provided the data that shows black crime discrepancy is tied to the urban environment.

Your refusal to address the fact that it goes way down based on an environmental change makes your hackery boring.

[Speaker to Animals]

Non-Hispanic Urban: 60.9
Hispanic Urban: 51.7
Hispanic Rural: 46.5
Non Hispanic rural 33.7


Seriously. Be a better hack.

The subject was black folks not hispanics and how the current poor illegal immigration system might skew their data.

Good. Now look at actual crime stats for whites compared to blacks (without Hispanics coy ted as white)... LOL

you’ve already been provided the data that shows black crime discrepancy is tied to the urban environment.

Your refusal to address the fact that it goes way down based on an environmental change makes your hackery boring.

You are still obviously wrong and obviously avoiding the glaring problem with your bogus statistics.

It is surprisingly difficult to arrive at a definitive picture of the races of offenders. The National Crime Victimization Survey categorizes crime victims by race and Hispanic ethnicity, but until recently, it did not consider Hispanics a separate offender category; it usually called them “white” or “other race.” Furthermore, beginning in 2009, the year the Obama administration took office, the NCVS stopped publishing information on race of offender, even though it continued to gather the data. In 2015, the Department of Justice finally released a partial set of offender-race information (see page 13 below).

The Uniform Crime Reports program, which is the basis of the FBI’s national tabulation of arrests, includes Hispanics in the “white” category. Arrest and incarceration rates by race — to the extent they are even available — must often serve as imperfect indicators of actual offense rates by race.

As we will see in greater detail below, blacks are arrested at much higher rates than any other racial group.2 It is common to argue that these high rates are the result of racial bias, and that bias continues through every stage of criminal processing: indictment, plea bargain, trial, sentencing, parole, etc. In 2008, then-senator Barack Obama asserted that blacks and whites “are arrested at very different rates, are convicted at very different rates, [and] receive very different sentences … for the same crime.” This view is echoed by the media but is not supported by either the scholarly literature or by government statistics.

Police, in particular, are often accused of racial bias, but is it really plausible that they arrest blacks they know are innocent but ignore white criminals? A 2008 summary of earlier research compared the races of offenders as identified by victims to the races of perpetrators arrested by the police and found that “the odds of arrest for whites were 22 percent higher for robbery, 13 percent higher for aggravated assault, and 9 percent higher for simple assault than they were for blacks, whereas there were no differences for forcible rape.”

A 2015 study of American men based on the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health found that controlling for IQ and lifetime records of violence completely accounted for racial differences in arrest rates.

Fortunately, there is an excellent database that throws light directly on the question of racial bias in arrests: the National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS). In 2013, 6,328 law enforcement agencies covering approximately 29 percent of the US population reported crime to the FBI using NIBRS categories, which include races of reported offenders as well as races of persons arrested. It is reasonable to assume that both the racial mix of this massive sample and the behavior of police officers are representative of the entire United States.

Unfortunately, NIBRS does not distinguish between whites and Hispanics, which means blacks are the only racial group for which we have consistent information. However, blacks are the group most frequently said to be victims of police bias, so if the police treat them fairly it is probably safe to conclude they treat other groups fairly.

Figure 4 compares the percentages of criminals that victims say were black to the percentages of arrested suspects who were black. If police are arresting a larger proportion of blacks than the proportion of criminals victims say were black, it would be evidence of bias.

https://www.amren.com/archives/reports/ ... d-edition/


The government's crime statistics, in general, are totally cooked by leftists and neocon ideologues. Unlike the male-female disparity in rape, there is no trivial way to untangle the deliberately confounded statistical groups (since with the rape issue, one need only include "made to penetrate" as rape and presto women commit rape in comparable numbers to men). In this case, they conflate Hispanics with whites at every level. Even at the police level they will do this, so it's not really possible for the federal government to even solve the problem and give anybody accurate data and conclusions.

You are presenting bullshit and then avoiding the glaring proof that none of us have access to accurate data at all. There is no good data for white offenders because it's conflated at every level with a more violent race.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Government crime stats show higher rates of black crime,

StA: See, blacks can't do society good... if you disagree you are anti-science.

Government crime stats show anything else at all,

StA: THOSE STATS ARE COOKED BY LEFTISTS IN AN ANTI-WHITE CONSPIRACY




Clown shoes.

[Speaker to Animals]

Actually quote me instead of posting a straw man and attributing it to me.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I think those are sufficiently accurate summations.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think those are sufficiently accurate summations.

Incorrect, dishonest, and insulting. Use my actual argument or get fucked.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

You have argued many, many times that Malthusian selective pressures in northern and western Europe make those peoples uniquely suited to advanced, high-trust societies, and you have used government crime statistics concerning violent crimes from different demographics to support your argument. Pretending you haven't now is just sad.

Then, when the same government crime statistics undermine your theory, you holler "leftist conspiracy" at the top of your lungs.

I have very accurately and honestly summed up your arguments. You know it. Everyone who has read even a little MHF knows it.

Don't go slinking away from your positions just because they are absurd, inaccurate, contradictory, paranoid, and cowardly. At least have the courage of your convictions.

[Speaker to Animals]

You have argued many, many times that Malthusian selective pressures in northern and western Europe make those peoples uniquely suited to advanced, high-trust societies, and you have used government crime statistics concerning violent crimes from different demographics to support your argument. Pretending you haven't now is just sad.

Then, when the same government crime statistics undermine your theory, you holler "leftist conspiracy" at the top of your lungs.

I have very accurately and honestly summed up your arguments. You know it. Everyone who has read even a little MHF knows it.

Don't go slinking away from your positions just because they are absurd, inaccurate, contradictory, paranoid, and cowardly. At least have the courage of your convictions.

You are conflating different topics in attempt to save your dishonest post.

You are obviously full of shit.

The statistics, as they relate to white crime are obviously inaccurate, since we can ALL damned well see they include Hispanic crime, injected into the stats at multiple levels. None of us have accurate data on white crime rates.