WTF Canada?!

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Re: WTF Canada?!

Post by DBTrek » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:28 am

What’s Canada’s biggest cyber security company again? You guy’s aren’t generally known for your world class technical chops.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:30 am

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:28 am
What’s Canada’s biggest cyber security company again? You guy’s aren’t generally known for your world class technical chops.
CSE is integrated with the NSA and GCHQ

The access is limited to CSE, but CSE in of itself is basically a mini NSA.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:32 am

According to Eddie Snowden Canada can be just as nasty as the Americans and Brits.

The Americans and Brits actually like to use Canada as a Five Eyes attack dog, because Canada is low profile.
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Post by DBTrek » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:37 am

I guess. Eddie Snowden’s info may as well be written in Sanskrit at the pace technology moves. I work in Cybersecurity and see pretty much the same four players over and over: USA, China, Russia, and NK. Every now and then you’ll see India pull some shit ... also small Eastern European or ME nations with extreme rarity.

Can’t think of a single major cyber threat originating from Canada that I’ve come across. Given ... I certainly don’t see them all. But I see a LOT.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:40 am

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:37 am
I guess. Eddie Snowden’s info may as well be written in Sanskrit at the pace technology moves. I work in Cybersecurity and see pretty much the same four players over and over: USA, China, Russia, and NK. Every now and then you’ll see India pull some shit ... also small Eastern European or ME nations with extreme rarity.

Can’t think of a single major cyber threat originating from Canada that I’ve come across. Given ... I certainly don’t see them all.
What he showed is that Canada has all the tools the Americans and Brits are using.

I would assume that whatever GCHQ can do, Canada can do to.

The Philippines is not actually the stone age, they are industrialized and networked, and so vulnerable to Five Eyes.
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Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:44 am

I would actually assume that they are already running operations against Duterte

The Liberals don't like him at all, and they are nothing, if not vindictive.
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Re: WTF Canada?!

Post by DBTrek » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:46 am

Sure.

Anywhere with Industrial Control Systems (ICS) is vulnerable to Stuxnet type attacks. But that’s old shit. Even EternalBlue (stolen from the NSA and used in WannaCry) is old shit. I don’t doubt Canada can leverage old cyber attacks against the Philippines. I thought we were talking about some new, cutting-edge type attacks.

I’ve never seen Canada put out an Emotet or a Ghost Miner. That’s all I was saying. The old shit still works though. I suspect it works especially well in places like the Phillipines where cyber security has to be pretty low on the list of priorities.
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Re: WTF Canada?!

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:48 am

DBTrek wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:46 am
Sure.

Anywhere with Industrial Control Systems (ICS) is vulnerable to Stuxnet type attacks. But that’s old shit. Even EternalBlue (stolen from the NSA and used in WannaCry) is old shit. I don’t doubt Canada can leverage old cyber attacks against the Philippines. I thought we were talking about some new, cutting-edge type attacks.

I’ve never seen Canada put out an Emotet or a Ghost Miner. That’s all I was saying. The old shit still works though. I suspect it works especially well in places like the Phillipines where cyber security has to be pretty low on the list of priorities.

Sure. But it's Five Eyes, so I don't know what they have now, but whatever it is, it's the best Cyberweapons the United States can provide.
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Re: WTF Canada?!

Post by Smitty-48 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:00 pm

I can't think of any other way the fight could go down.

Neither party has significant conventional power projection.

Neither party is in proximity to the other.

The only way to fight, would be covert political war in the cyber spectrum.

For all intents and purposes, that would be like the Philippines fighting the United States in the cyber spectrum.
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Re: WTF Canada?!

Post by DBTrek » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:06 pm

You guys could get in some old pirate Galleons and blast it out on the high seas.
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