Did the English Instigate the French Revolution?

[kybkh]

Seems like something they’d do as revenge for helping Americans

[Speaker to Animals]

No. The aristocracy did not think in nationalistic terms until much later. The British aristocracy was more concerned with stamping out nationalism, not spreading it.

The French revolution signaled the immanent demise of aristocracy and the rise of degeneracy.

[TheReal_ND]

Seems like something they’d do as revenge for helping Americans

If by British you mean Scottish Rite of Freemasonry then yes, it was in large part instigated by the British.

[Speaker to Animals]

Freemasonry was overwhelmingly French at the time. They were too busy trying to kill off the Protestant bandits and pirates to notice the greater threat of Satanism right under their noses.

[TheReal_ND]

[GloryofGreece]

Not related but Im sure some will dig the read.
Blood, Sweat and Booze: Churchill’s Debts and the Moguls Who Saved Him

https://www.haaretz.com/amp/world-news/ ... -1.5437629

[BjornP]

Seems like something they’d do as revenge for helping Americans

Instigate it? Unlikely. Fan its flames, perhaps. The French funding of the American war of independence bankrupted the kingdom, and forced the king to beg the estates (a representative assembly representing the major social classes) for more money. Usually major foreign powers don't, and really can't, start major popular rebellions. Like the US or Soviet Union during the Cold War, it was mostly latching on to some dissident faction, and providing them support in exchange for future, lucrative deals if they won. That game has been played since ancient times, with pretender kings and emperors going into exile at a foreign court, and a foreign king bankrolling the pretender's way to his throne if he honors the host king's agreement. The problem with funding a representative council of non-noble, non-royal, non-permanent heads of state during a state of revolution, is that you don't really know what you'll be getting out of it.

With the French revolution, though...well... It's one thing to have a major republican nation on the other side of the ocean, it's another to have the second most powerful, European power of the time become a republic. When the French revolution began, it was on its way to a British-style constitutional monarchy, with ideals of liberty inspired by the American revolution sprinkled in. So, it's possible Britain could have whispered in someone's ear, there, but without intelligence reports from the time, it's just guesswork.

But I think, once the king and queens' heads were off, the precedent it set not just against Britain but several, neighbouring kingdoms, would have been something that needed to be quashed. While Britain was a constitutional monarchy, the other European monarchies were absolutist monarchies. To them, Republicanism was essentially the Bolshevik threat of its day. That, and the emerging nationalism, because it invisaged that the ownership of the state naturally ought to reside with the nation, not a (often foreign-born) nobility or royal line.

[doc_loliday]

Fake news.