TheReal_ND wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:46 pm
Redpill me on Gore Vidal. What do you mean by foil? Was he a Russian oligarch?
Buckley vs Vidal.
Buckley represented the right, Vidal argued for the left.
Buckley yeilded the feild to the left though. Buckley said we should suffer big government for the duration of war and yeilded cultural liberalism to the left in exchange. Wtf could Vidal represent that Buckley didn't cave to?
I didn't say Vidal didn't win. He did win in the end.
But he never virtue signaled. He wasn't a purity spiraller. He wasn't utopian.
He didn't make himself out to be a messiah.
He acknowledged that he was part of the empire too and enjoyed all the benefits therein.
NRO's mission was to relegate Birchers to the sidelines. To wrest the populist right faction from their own tendencies and dish them NeoCohen talking points on a Frankfurt school platter.
Buckley was nominally a Catholic. He was howerver of jewish heritage. He was always quick to speak a mealy mouthed praise of Zionism. He frequently joked how when he died he wanted to be crucified in his front yard because mocking Jesus is a central tenant of judaism.
Catholic for sure. First to relegate culture to the Marxist left. First to proffer a word for Zionism. Catholic in name only as much as he was ever a proponent of the right. The only thing we have Buckley to thank for is stupid libertarian economics that are only used to fuck over the middle class and appeasement of the left with their desire to long march through all our institutions.
Smitty-48 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:13 pm
Buckley never bothered me, I just thought he was weak.
Barry Goldwater said all that needed to be said.
Buckley just muddied the waters.
Are you a big Goldwater fan? I don't know much about him, but I kind of respect his balls. Like, one time he was campaigning and just shitting on big govt and Social Security in front of an audience of senior citizens. Fucking awesome.
