F35 vs. A10?

F35 vs A10?

F35
7
39%
A10
11
61%
 
Total votes: 18

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:20 pm

Once again, you SIFCLIFing about the F-35 lacks military bearing.

You seem to be willing to throw your professional credibility under the bus for SIFCLIFing.

Since I do believe that your were an Airman once, I find it to be kind of sad.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:24 pm

Once again, you're just behaving emotionally and lashing out at criticism with personal insults, but the reality is plain to see. We are not fucking replacing the F-15 with this piece of shit. You lost that battle.

The Pentagon is in talks with other fighter manufacturers to develop some kind of mitigation strategy for this thing. That's not good. Already from those talks the F-15X stop-gap decision was made. You lost 400 fighters right there, and don't pretend like they weren't gunning for those squadrons because all their paid-off congressmen are whining about it.

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:27 pm

You said that already. You're just repeating yourself ad nauseum.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:28 pm

And you are repeating non-arguments and nonsense. Maybe post some more Lockmart marketing videos. I am sure that will get the above vote totals up. :lol:

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:36 pm

F-35 v. A-10 is a silly fallacy in of itself, the A-10 being a dedicated attack aircraft not suitable for any other role.

The 8 people who voted for their fanboi plane are clearly the ones being emotional.

F-35 is the cold hard calculated position, A-10 fanboism is for SIFCLFs.

The fact that you claim to be Mr. Air Force but cannot see the fallacy in the poll, speaks to your exaggerated claims of expertise.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:40 pm

This doesn't look good for the Marines and USN:
In February, the commander of the U.S. Naval Air Forces proclaimed that the Navy's F-35C Joint Strike Fighter was "ready for operations, ready for combat and ready to win" — even though the Navy's own testing data says otherwise.

Testing data obtained by the Project On Government Oversight (POGO) indicates that the F-35 variant's "fully mission capable" rate — a key measure of a military aircraft's readiness — collapsed from 12% in October 2016 to zero in December 2017 before remaining flat through 2018.

The Marine Corps' F-35B hasn't fared much better: According to the POGO report, the aircraft's FMC rate fell from 23% in October 2017 to 12.9% in June 2018.

Both of these rates are far below the September 2019 target of an 80% mission capable rate for both Navy and Air Force fighter jets set by former Defense Secretary James Mattis back in October.
https://taskandpurpose.com/navy-f35-mis ... pable-rate



And what the fuck is this shit??
These shortcomings come weeks after an annual report from the Pentagon's operational testing and evaluation arm highlighted the alarmingly low service life of the F-35B that "may be as low as 2,100 [hours]," well bellow the expected service life of 8,000 hours.

2,100 hours? Is this a fucking joke?

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:43 pm

Doesn't look good, folks.

Sky Is Falling Chicken Little Faggot sky fall, in every single thread.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:02 pm

Also, let's put this shit show into some historical context.

This fucking thing was awarded in 2001 to LMC as essentially a support stealth aircraft. It was a 19 billion dollar cost-plus project that is now costing us over 400 billion fucking dollars. It's destroyed our only fifth generation air superiority fighter program. The corruption from this company has reached key members of Congress, as I have shown. Every time you read about one of these knuckleheads complaining about the F-15X decision, look at their donations. All Lockmart financial recipients. They were paid for.

400 billion dollars for an aircraft that lost a dogfight to a a God damned F-16 four years ago. Then when people were like, what the fucking fuck is this shit??, F-35 supporters said the F-35 was never meant for dogfighting anyway. But then it was supposed to replace our F-15C squadrons?? WTF?

And if it's not meant for aerial combat, then what the fuck is it for? It can only carry four decent air-to-air missiles. Maybe a few bombs. It's armament capacity is so low that it's practically useless for anything. I mean.. if it were a real air superiority fighter, I could let that go, but it obviously cannot compete for air dominance against a real fifth gen fighter. So what are we paying for exactly?

That part never gets answered. It's just a bunch of marketing woo woo followed by insults against anybody who mentions the uncomfortable truth, and the truth is that this F-35 program is the largest defense boondoggle and fraud in American history. Which means human history.

400 billion dollars is almost what the entire Vietnam War cost us, adjusted for inflation. It's about four Apollo programs (getting men on the surface of the Moon seven times (one aborted), built from the ground up). It's what it would cost us to completely duplicate the interstate highway system.

Instead we got this. A jet that doesn't really do anything well and isn't likely to win any engagement with Russian and Chinese air superiority fighters. We do have our existing F-22 squadrons, but they are aging, and none are being built any longer.

These are serious fucking problems that this little duo of Lockmart fan boys fail to address. Instead they will just insult and bury posts with more nonsense. Maybe post some more marketing videos. Whatev.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:05 pm

Sky Is Falling Chicken Little Faggot Wall of Text.

In every single thread.

Doesn't matter what the subject is.

Sky is always falling.

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:06 pm

So nada. Smitty can't answer any of that. Just insults and hope to bury the post. But I will just repost it next page and he will still continue to lose this debate, as shown in the vote totals above. LOL