MilSpecs wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:07 pm
Not that I don’t like. That are forbidden by the Constitution.
The Constitution includes a judicial branch which addresses violations (Article III). If/When ICE has violated the Constitution, there is a process to hold them accountable. Which is more than we can say for the millions of illegals who are actively sheltered by local and state governments. Why are you more concerned about the American nationals, under Constitutional authority and accountability, carrying out their duties than you are about unknown millions of intruders?
Who do you think kills more people, moves more drugs, rapes more women, steals more property, and commits more violations of the law in any given year - ICE, or illegal immigrants?
MilSpecs wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:07 pm
Not that I don’t like. That are forbidden by the Constitution.
The Constitution includes a judicial branch which addresses violations (Article III). If/When ICE has violated the Constitution, there is a process to hold them accountable. Which is more than we can say for the millions of illegals who are actively sheltered by local and state governments. Why are you more concerned about the American nationals, under Constitutional authority and accountability, carrying out their duties than you are about unknown millions of intruders?
Who do you think kills more people, moves more drugs, rapes more women, steals more property, and commits more violations of the law in any given year - ICE, or illegal immigrants?
Neither. Americans don’t need help in those areas.
And of course I’m more concerned about American citizens being deprived of constitutional rights than I am about people here illegally. Unless it’s al quaida or the equivalent, and even then there would have to be a suspension of habeas corpus, would there not? Lawyers?
If any of the 20k ICE agents violate your constitutional rights, they must answer to the law.
If any of the 13million+ illegals violate your rights (and you survive to talk about it), they may well never answer to the law.
Your concerns seems utterly misplaced and backwards to me.
More worried about a regulated 20k with extremely low error and crime rates than with 13+ million unregulated unknowns with elevated crime rates.
Not a math major I guess.
DBTrek wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:33 pm
If any of the 20k ICE agents violate your constitutional rights, they must answer to the law.
If any of the 13million+ illegals violate your rights (and you survive to talk about it), they may well never answer to the law.
Your concerns seems utterly misplaced and backwards to me.
More worried about a regulated 20k with extremely low error and crime rates than with 13+ million unregulated unknowns with elevated crime rates.
Not a math major I guess.
Recent estimates are putting the number much, much higher than the media has let on.
Really, we need to do maybe two things aside from actual border security:
(1) No more welfare assistance of any kind to illegals, including education and health care outside of emergencies.
(2) Deport the kids even if they are born here. The Constitution does not grant magic soil citizenship. That was a bullshit ruling made by a judge. Magic soil citizenship is among the most asinine political policies ever devised by a people.
Speaker to Animals wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 2:43 pm
Really, we need to do maybe two things aside from actual border security:
(1) No more welfare assistance of any kind to illegals, including education and health care outside of emergencies.
(2) Deport the kids even if they are born here. The Constitution does not grant magic soil citizenship. That was a bullshit ruling made by a judge. Magic soil citizenship is among the most asinine political policies ever devised by a people.
