Brexit

[StCapps]

Capps needs his afternoon nap. He gets a little cranky when he's tired, bless him.
Maybe he can play in the sand pit when he wakes up.

I was tired and cranky, yesterday afternoon. But not about you, your bullshit was amusing and fun to make fun of.

[heydaralon]

Capps needs his afternoon nap. He gets a little cranky when he's tired, bless him.
Maybe he can play in the sand pit when he wakes up.

Hate will not divide us

[Montegriffo]

Capps needs his afternoon nap. He gets a little cranky when he's tired, bless him.
Maybe he can play in the sand pit when he wakes up.

Hate will not divide us

[clubgop]

It's like un ecole des enfants around here some days.

Does that give you a boner? Probably.

We are making fun of English Flaggot and no one let me know?

Maybe we should back off, his idol is getting exposed as the dishonest bigoted bitch he always was, just like him.

[heydaralon]

who is his idol?

[clubgop]

who is his idol?

Glad you asked.
Check out @bennyjohnson’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status ... 62214?s=09

But no not Robert Mueller.

[Otern]

Went to a student debate yesterday, between some Norwegian journalists, and the British ambassador to Norway. The British ambassador was pretty sensible, as were one of the Norwegian journalists. But the moderator asked the audience at one point if we thought Brexit was the correct choice.
Of the hundreds of audience members, me, and maybe five-seven others raised their hands in support for Brexit. I find this quite weird, as 80% of Norwegians still oppose EU membership for Norway. It was primarily international students there though, but still, it felt quite weird.

The moderator was extremely biased though. Kept claiming the Brexiters were uneducated morons who didn't know what they voted for, but thankfully, the Norwegian journalist, who supported remain, confronted this attitude, talking about his pro-brexit friends who are well educated and informed.

[Montegriffo]

Went to a student debate yesterday, between some Norwegian journalists, and the British ambassador to Norway. The British ambassador was pretty sensible, as were one of the Norwegian journalists. But the moderator asked the audience at one point if we thought Brexit was the correct choice.
Of the hundreds of audience members, me, and maybe five-seven others raised their hands in support for Brexit. I find this quite weird, as 80% of Norwegians still oppose EU membership for Norway. It was primarily international students there though, but still, it felt quite weird.

The moderator was extremely biased though. Kept claiming the Brexiters were uneducated morons who didn't know what they voted for, but thankfully, the Norwegian journalist, who supported remain, confronted this attitude, talking about his pro-brexit friends who are well educated and informed.

Strictly speaking they didn't know what they were voting for.
Nobody knew what leaving would look like and on what terms we would leave.
This is why there is such a large movement in favour of a public vote on May's exit plan. Parliament has rejected it twice and have no other plan so maybe it is time for the people to have a say now they are better informed.
At the moment we seem to be stumbling into a no-deal exit which even some of the Brexit campaigners oppose due to the catastrophic effects it could have.

The weekend saw one of the largest ever demonstrations in British history come out on the streets to oppose leaving.
The second vote petition is now at over 4 million signatures, dwarfing the pro-Brexit petition with only 400k signing it.
We have been completely let down by our politicians from all sides who are still voting on partisan motives rather than the issues of Brexit.
Our pitiful opposition leader just wants a general election and doesn't care about risking a no deal exit so he has opposed May's deal at every turn.
The EU is still playing hardball and have refused a longer extension of the Brexit vote and are now saying approve May's deal or leave with no deal on May 12th.
Floored as May's deal is it is still a far better option than no deal and given the choice I would vote for it over a hard exit on WTO terms which every expert has said would be a disaster. The governments own inquiry into the consequences of no deal was so damning they tried to bury it.

[Otern]

What's May's deal all about really?

Can't seem to find any info about what it entails anywhere, just that it's a deal, and the parliament doesn't want it.

[Otern]

Strictly speaking they didn't know what they were voting for.

Strictly speaking, you could argue noone really knew what they were voting for, even the remainers.

The EU has evolved into something no early supporter knew it would. And brexiter aren't one common mass of people, with one common goal. Lots of them probably knew exactly what they were voting for, and lots of them had different reasons for voting. Some were voting for sovereignty, others for immigration policy, others for nationalism, and plenty of other reasons.

There's a certain arrogance in saying; "they didn't know what they were voting for". Especially when coming from a remainer. You might not know what they were voting for, but they might know. Will they all get their wishes? Hopefully not, as there's a vast variance in wishes and hopes, and there's still almost half of the voters who wish to remain, so a deal consisting of a close relationship with the EU is in the best interest of everyone.

But throwing away the vote, and remaining in the EU is out of the question at this point. It would only destroy democracy.