Plutarch on animal ethics

[Speaker to Animals]

JD, in all seriousness.. If you gave me about 18 months where you agreed to eat dairy and eggs such that your protein and fat consumption is enough to fix your hormonal problems and build muscle, and then gave me about two hours four four nights per week to train, you would be quite a bit healthier. Furthermore, after putting a fair amount of muscle on and increasing your testosterone to healthy levels, your confidence and outlook would transform dramatically.

Basically, all these female political ideologies you embrace would strike you as absolutely pathetic for a grown man to espouse.

This shit in your head is predominantly an evolutionary response to your weakness. This is not an attack on you. I was right there at one time. For many men out there, liberalism is a health issue. It is not a legitimate political position at all, but the consequence of being unmasculine and weak.

And eating dairy and eggs does not involve killing animals. You can go to an organic grocer to purchase free range eggs and grass-fed dairy. There are even co-ops where you can buy raw milk and eggs directly from a farm you can personally inspect.


All you need to pull out of this otherwise fatal nosedive is to add sufficient dairy and eggs to your vegetarian diet, and to train at least four days per week. You will put on at least twenty lbs of muscle in 18 months and feel so much better about yourself.


Liberalism is a health and masculinity crisis as much as anything else.

[Speaker to Animals]

Basically:

1. Eat enough dairy and whey protein such that your protein intake is about 0.7 grams of protein per lbs of body weight or higher.

2. Eat at least two eggs per day for cholesterol.

3. Strength training four nights per week (after 18 months, you'd probably want to increase this to 5-6 nights per week).

4. (optional) Learn a fighting system.




I shit you not, if most liberal men did the above, their politics would completely change. And no animals are harmed doing the above.

[heydaralon]

Basically:

1. Eat enough dairy and whey protein such that your protein intake is about 0.7 grams of protein per lbs of body weight or higher.

2. Eat at least two eggs per day for cholesterol.

3. Strength training four nights per week (after 18 months, you'd probably want to increase this to 5-6 nights per week).

4. (optional) Learn a fighting system.




I shit you not, if most liberal men did the above, their politics would completely change. And no animals are harmed doing the above.

They are being raped though. Milk collection is rape. Period. The animal is in a subservient position with the person in a position of power. The animal cannot by definition, say no, and even if it could physically do so, it lacks the larynx and throat structure to audibilize it thus making the act of milking rape. There is no debating it.

[StCapps]

Basically:

1. Eat enough dairy and whey protein such that your protein intake is about 0.7 grams of protein per lbs of body weight or higher.

2. Eat at least two eggs per day for cholesterol.

3. Strength training four nights per week (after 18 months, you'd probably want to increase this to 5-6 nights per week).

4. (optional) Learn a fighting system.




I shit you not, if most liberal men did the above, their politics would completely change. And no animals are harmed doing the above.

Wrong. You know how many liberal MMA fighters and soldiers there are out there? Tons, and it ain't because they don't have enough muscle, don't have enough cholesterol, and don't eat meat or dairy. It's a socially reinforced ideology, not a physical aliment, being fit won't cure most people of liberalism, don't be ridiculous.

[Speaker to Animals]

Basically:

1. Eat enough dairy and whey protein such that your protein intake is about 0.7 grams of protein per lbs of body weight or higher.

2. Eat at least two eggs per day for cholesterol.

3. Strength training four nights per week (after 18 months, you'd probably want to increase this to 5-6 nights per week).

4. (optional) Learn a fighting system.




I shit you not, if most liberal men did the above, their politics would completely change. And no animals are harmed doing the above.

Wrong. You know how many liberal MMA fighters there are out there? Tons, and it ain't because they don't have enough muscle, don't have enough cholesterol, and don't eat meat or dairy. It's a socially reinforced ideology, not a physical aliment.

You are reasoning like a woman. Just because you can find stronger men who are shit libs doesn't mean the general effect is not well understood. It is proven that men who get stronger -- in general -- tend to shift rightward. This isn't about finding a few counterexamples. It's about statistics.

[StCapps]

You are reasoning like a woman. Just because you can find stronger men who are shit libs doesn't mean the general effect is not well understood. It is proven that men who get stronger -- in general -- tend to shift rightward. This isn't about finding a few counterexamples. It's about statistics.

I don't disagree that being physically weak male makes one slightly more likely to embrace liberalism, but every dude on the planet becoming a fitness freak isn't going to magically cure them either. The correlation between physically weak men and liberalism is not such that most of the problem would be solved with adequate PT and diet alone.

[Speaker to Animals]

You are reasoning like a woman. Just because you can find stronger men who are shit libs doesn't mean the general effect is not well understood. It is proven that men who get stronger -- in general -- tend to shift rightward. This isn't about finding a few counterexamples. It's about statistics.

I don't disagree that being physically weak male makes one slightly more likely to embrace liberalism, but every dude on the planet becoming a fitness freak isn't going to magically cure them either.

Yes, it would. Statistically, the vast majority of the liberal men would shift away from Marxism, feminism, and every other cuck behavior. That doesn't mean all. It's a matter of statistics.

[StCapps]

Yes, it would. Statistically, the vast majority of the liberal men would shift away from Marxism, feminism, and every other cuck behavior. That doesn't mean all. It's a matter of statistics.

The statistics don't show that the vast majority would shift away from that ideology. That is your ridiculous interpretation of the statistics, big difference. Not saying it wouldn't help, but nowhere near as much as you think it will.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yes, it would. Statistically, the vast majority of the liberal men would shift away from Marxism, feminism, and every other cuck behavior. That doesn't mean all. It's a matter of statistics.

The statistics don't show that the vast majority would shift away from that ideology. That is your ridiculous interpretation of the statistics, big difference. Not saying it wouldn't help, but nowhere near as much as you think it will.

Yes, actually they do. Men who get stronger, as a group, shift rightward. This is a well-documented phenomenon.

[StCapps]

Yes, it would. Statistically, the vast majority of the liberal men would shift away from Marxism, feminism, and every other cuck behavior. That doesn't mean all. It's a matter of statistics.

The statistics don't show that the vast majority would shift away from that ideology. That is your ridiculous interpretation of the statistics, big difference. Not saying it wouldn't help, but nowhere near as much as you think it will.

Yes, actually they do. Men who get stronger, as a group, shift rightward. This is a well-documented phenomenon.

They won't shift as far rightward as you think they will. The stats do not agree with your assertion in that regard.

For example, most vegans ate meat and dairy before becoming vegan, yet they still embrace the ideology before they deprived themselves of the hormones, cholesterol and proper protein, all this, despite your belief that eating meat and dairy will solve most of the problem, and PT will solve most of the rest of it.

Wishful thinking is a helluva drug.