2020 election

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Re: 2020 election

Post by clubgop » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:37 am

If you'll notice, I actually think it's more likely that Biden will lose the nomination than win it, I put his odds at 40% chance of victory. But of the three, Biden has the best chance of winning, it's just that Harris and Sanders combined chances of winning (50%) exceeds Biden's (40%). Based on that, how would we make things interesting?
Yes, but you have Biden, Sanders at a prohibitive 75% combined. I would bet heavily against that.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:41 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:59 pm
The far left lane is clogged, that provides the establishment the opportunity to win 2020. If the far left pick a horse and back it before Biden gains too much momentum like Romney did in 2020, then Sanders or Harris will win.

Tulsi has no shot, she's too centrist for the far lefties, she's not the right kind of intersectional for the identitarian left because Indians are a well off minority, and she has no chance of winning over the establishment, she's dead in the water. The anti-establishment vote is not big enough for her to win when she has no hope of gaining much ground with the three major voting blocks.

Also, like you said, she's too polite and the media hate her, which isn't a good thing for Democrats, because Democrats trust the media a lot more than Republicans.
Demcorats are not going to nominate another establishment crony. That ship sailed in 2016.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by clubgop » Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:59 am

StCapps wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:29 pm
Biden fits the Mondale/Dole/Kerry/Romney mold.
Sanders and Harris fits the McGovern mold.

The Dems might go McGovern this time, but the usually go Mondale/Dole/Kerry/Romney. If they go McGovern, Trump wins in a landslide, if they go Mondale/Kerry then the worst Trump will do is coast to re-election.
Harris does not fit the McGovern mold. She is not ideologically driven, she is cravenly political and will say anything and do anything to get power. She is Clintonesqe in that regard.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by pineapplemike » Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:18 am

yeah capps, harris is the establishment candidate. you havent seen the difference between coverage of her and coverage of bernie? that should tell you all you need to know

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Re: 2020 election

Post by Ex-California » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:16 am

clubgop wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:59 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:29 pm
Biden fits the Mondale/Dole/Kerry/Romney mold.
Sanders and Harris fits the McGovern mold.

The Dems might go McGovern this time, but the usually go Mondale/Dole/Kerry/Romney. If they go McGovern, Trump wins in a landslide, if they go Mondale/Kerry then the worst Trump will do is coast to re-election.
Harris does not fit the McGovern mold. She is not ideologically driven, she is cravenly political and will say anything and do anything to get power. She is Clintonesqe in that regard.
She has the highest intersectionality score so she's a shoo-in
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Re: 2020 election

Post by DBTrek » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:55 am

clubgop wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:29 pm
DBTrek wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:01 pm
Hate fake news? Yang has proposed the creation of a "news and information ombudsman," a kind of imperial fact-checker who would award media liars heavy fines instead of pinocchios.
That’s not creepy at all. Or hey, we could just become a direct Banana Republic under China and get communism and the state media censors without having to elect anyone.

They got this tho:
At present Yang's most vocal supporters seem to be young men who are what you might call "extremely online": the same meme-addicted 4chan weirdos who tended to favor Donald Trump in 2016. They call themselves the "Yang Gang."

https://theweek.com/articles/829377/and ... illennials
The fine is going to be $1000. Yang gang going to be owing bags by the end of it.
That would be hilarious. YangGang immediately lose their bags to Emperor DragonCensor
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Re: 2020 election

Post by clubgop » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:07 pm

California wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:16 am
clubgop wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:59 am
StCapps wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:29 pm
Biden fits the Mondale/Dole/Kerry/Romney mold.
Sanders and Harris fits the McGovern mold.

The Dems might go McGovern this time, but the usually go Mondale/Dole/Kerry/Romney. If they go McGovern, Trump wins in a landslide, if they go Mondale/Kerry then the worst Trump will do is coast to re-election.
Harris does not fit the McGovern mold. She is not ideologically driven, she is cravenly political and will say anything and do anything to get power. She is Clintonesqe in that regard.
She has the highest intersectionality score so she's a shoo-in
That's what I have been saying.

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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:51 pm

clubgop wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:07 pm
California wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:16 am
clubgop wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:59 am


Harris does not fit the McGovern mold. She is not ideologically driven, she is cravenly political and will say anything and do anything to get power. She is Clintonesqe in that regard.
She has the highest intersectionality score so she's a shoo-in
That's what I have been saying.
The intersectional coalition is minority faction in the party guys. Intersectional is not the establishment, the establishment politicians simply parrot intersectional talking points, there is a difference. Intersectional is far left, they can't win the moderate corporate liberals over unless there is no establishment alternative, and the corporate liberals are the biggest faction in the Democrat party, which is why Biden is leading the polls.

Harris is Intersectional McGovern, Bernie is Socialist McGovern, Biden is Corporate Liberal Mondale/Kerry. The far left was united in 2016 and couldn't even beat Clinton, what makes you think they are a shoo-in to knock off Biden when they are divided? If you think she only won because she's a woman and Bernie was a white male, that's a misreading of the situation.

Y'all are overestimating the fringe minority and underestimating the biggest faction in the Democratic Party, the faction who controls the vote of the vast majority of superdelegates too, in fact.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by StCapps » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:55 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Tue Mar 19, 2019 8:18 am
yeah capps, harris is the establishment candidate. you havent seen the difference between coverage of her and coverage of bernie? that should tell you all you need to know
She's only getting the coverage, because Biden hasn't announced yet, he's the establishment candidate, intersectional is not the establishment, corporate liberals are the establishment. Don't let the vocal minorities fool you into thinking otherwise, they don't have the numbers on their side, even in the Democrat primaries where they punch well above their weight.
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Re: 2020 election

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:18 pm

YangGang are getting gassed.