New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by StCapps » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:00 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:58 am
This scumbag just doomed NZ to a semi-auto ban all by himself. I never said a word about gun rights.
Inspiring scumbags to attack innocent people has never been a right though.
This is where hate speech gets you.
This where nutjobs get you. Hate speech has fuck all to do with it. A nutjob twisting the words of others, to rationalize mass murder, is not fucking incitement to violence by right wing websites. Shut yourself down, stop trying to ban others from exercising their rights.
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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:05 am

StCapps wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:52 am
Shut down no hate speech. The Bleeding Heart Faggots need to settle the fuck down, especially on the ban hate speech tip.
Free Speech > Montegriffo's Feelz

It's bad enough Monte calls for more useless gun control after every mass shooting, but now he's calling to ban hate speech because some far right nutjob shot some Muslims?

What a tool, his solution to every mass shooting is: Law abiding citizens need less rights and that will magically stop the bad guys.
So you wouldn't want ISIS recruitment videos removed?
You think there should be no limits to free speech?
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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by StCapps » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:06 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:05 am
So you wouldn't want ISIS recruitment videos removed?
You think there should be no limits to free speech?
Leave the ISIS recruitment videos alone, free speech, you or me not liking it, shouldn't make it illegal. If the video is actually inciting violence, that should be removed, but just recruiting for ISIS, that's should be protected speech. Cheering on a mass murderer while he live streams a video, is not necessarily inciting violence.

As for limits on free speech, I'm fine with Brandenburg v. Ohio, and you can fuck right off with the hate speech should be illegal nonsense, incitement to violence is already illegal, so there is no need for hate speech to be illegal.
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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by Montegriffo » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:26 am

StCapps wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:06 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:05 am
So you wouldn't want ISIS recruitment videos removed?
You think there should be no limits to free speech?
Leave the ISIS recruitment videos alone, free speech, you or me not liking it, shouldn't make it illegal. If the video is actually inciting violence, that should be removed, but just recruiting for ISIS, that's should be protected speech. Cheering on a mass murderer while he live streams a video, is not necessarily inciting violence.

As for limits on free speech, I'm fine with Brandenburg v. Ohio, and you can fuck right off with the hate speech should be illegal nonsense, incitement to violence is already illegal, so there is no need for hate speech to be illegal.
Has nothing to do with liking it or not. That's just you making strawmen.
What matters is the consequences of hate speech.

How myopic do you have to be to not see the link between demonizing the ''kebabs'' and inciting shit for brains INCELS to go and make themselves King for a day?
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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by StCapps » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:30 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:26 am
What matters is the consequences of hate speech.

How myopic do you have to be to not see the link between demonizing the ''kebabs'' and inciting shit for brains INCELS to go and make themselves King for a day?
That is not what matters. What matters is free speech, and if it isn't inciting violence, but a nutjob twists the words of others to rationalize mass murder, then person who said the thing that mass murderer used to rationalize the murder, is not even a little responsible.

If I look at someone the wrong way, and as a result they decide to murder someone else because of it, I did not incite that person to murder anyone. Fuck your, "Results matter, so make it illegal for anyone to say anything that might have caused a murderer to decide to murder people" bullshit.
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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:32 am

I personally don't fuckin' care, liberals just want an excuse to ban speech and guns, let the Incels kill them, by all means, I won't lift a finger to stop it.

Let the Monty's burn, good riddance.
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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by StCapps » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:41 am

Here's hoping the free speech haters and gun grabbers die in a grease fire.


See now Monte, if some arsonist actually burns you alive in a grease fire, I shouldn't be held legally responsible, because I didn't incite no violence in this post. That would be 100% on the arsonist, and 0% on me. Accidentally inspiring crazy people and inciting violence, two completely different things.
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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:43 am

Die in a fire, lefties,

Aspiezatzgruppe for the win.

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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:47 am

StCapps wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:41 am
See now Monte, if some arsonist actually burns you alive in a grease fire, I shouldn't be held legally responsible, because I didn't incite no violence in this post. That would be 100% on the arsonist, and 0% on me,
The lefties are going to ban everything anyways, they are criminalizing the right itself, this is war of annihilation, have at them aspiezatzgruppe, no enemies on the right.
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Re: New Zealand - Killer Praised Trump

Post by BjornP » Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:08 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:58 am

This scumbag just doomed NZ to a semi-auto ban all by himself. I never said a word about gun rights.
Inspiring scumbags to attack innocent people has never been a right though.
This is where hate speech gets you.
"Inspiring", not simply "inciting", huh? See, when someone outright encourages and directs followers to commit murder, sure, arrest them. For inciting murder. But how do you provide the evidence for when someone has inspired a murder, or mass murder for that matter?

You don't solve conflicts in a democratic society by outlawing the voices of the angry, the disaffected, the frustrated, the ones with nothing to lose. No matter what they believe or say. Sweeping the problems under the carpet and carrying on like everything's fine and dandy, doesn't make the dirt go away.
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