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Post by pineapplemike » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Lisa Page Congressional Testimony Released
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House Judiciary Committee Republicans on Tuesday released hundreds of pages of transcripts from last year's closed-door interview with ex-FBI attorney Lisa Page, revealing new details about the bureau's controversial internal discussions regarding an “insurance policy” against then-candidate Donald Trump. Page first entered the spotlight in December 2017, when it was revealed by the Justice Department inspector general that she and then-FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok exchanged numerous anti-Trump text messages. The two were involved in the FBI’s initial counterintelligence investigation into Russian meddling and potential collusion with Trump campaign associates during the 2016 election, and later served on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team.

Among their texts was one concerning the so-called "insurance policy." During her interview with the Judiciary Committee in July 2018, Page was questioned at length about that text -- and essentially confirmed this referred to the Russia investigation while explaining that officials were proceeding with caution, concerned about the implications of the case while not wanting to go at "total breakneck speed" and risk burning sources as they presumed Trump wouldn't be elected anyway.
some guy from reddit wrote:From Day 2. Page 92. Lisa Page states that she had no knowledge of Steele memos prior to September.

Contradiction from Ohr testimony
some guy from reddit wrote:One thing I found interesting so far is that she wasn't even allowed to read the 302's.....so how in the hell can she question someone without knowing the full scope of the investigation. It becomes pretty clear that they sort of sectioned her off by limiting the information she had access to, to the point where they could say she did her job, without actually giving her all the tools to do her job. They kind of hid her as just being an attache to Comey/McCabe, so everything was going through them, with very little going through her, while presenting her as an FBI lawyer looking into things, without actually given much access. They basically put blinders on her like you would a horse, and trotted her down Investigation Lane, only able to see straight forward.

Page 30-31 is also interesting. She was instructed by the FBI not to answer a question about Comey/McCabe after Comey's firing. It was in regards to a text Strzok sent to her: "We need to open the case we've been waiting on while Andy is acting". I'm not sure if this text was redacted or not previously. I don't specifically recall it (and I read ALL the Strzok text documents, all 500 pages or so). But it's clear that after Comey's firing, the FBI was scrambling to do what they could to go after Trump, while they could. It's just proof that they didn't go after Trump because they had any evidence to, they went after him because Comey was fired and they were losing power, and knew leadership might change soon. They knew eventually McCabe would be unseated, because he was just in the thick of it as Comey.

-Placeholder to look up to see if this Strzok text was redacted: Check May 8th to May 10th in Strzok texts.
LISA PAGE TESTIMONY: COLLUSION STILL UNPROVEN BY THE TIME OF MUELLER'S SPECIAL COUNSEL APPOINTMENT
It's also clear by her testimony that they started Mueller up in order to have a way of attempting to charge Trump with obstruction of justice over Comey's firing, but the obstruction of justice part may have simply been a cover for what the special counsel turned into: A deep dive into "Russian" collusion and all the people surrounding Trump, in order to go after Trump. The investigation never had anything to do with election tampering, but for the fact that Trump was elected and they wanted to pin him as a Russian Manchurian-candidate.

So with that in mind, there was literally no Russian collusion basis for the case, even if you consider the contents of the Dossier. So no matter what Democrats say, when they say Mueller's investigation is just about election interference, what they really mean is it's a special counsel started up because Comey was fired, that was specifically designed to look into Trump for collusion.

Page 35 is where they start discussing the "Path in Andy's office -- that there's no way he gets elected" text. It continues on to page 39 and beyond. Interestingly, there is some redaction here, particularly to do with the date they are discussing and witness interviews. She seems to be "not allowed" to discuss this by FBI. And then the FBI lawyers pause the interview altogether to talk to Lisa Page in private. Furthermore, she won't speak about even which country this mysterious interview(s) took place in. And the place of the interview seemed to be "protected" and Gowdy was asking why. Her lawyers then basically shot down Gowdy with "This is an ongoing investigation so we won't discuss it" crap. I'm not sure if this interview stuff is a new thing we previously didn't know about, or something that correlates to something we already know. But since it's redacted, I'm leaning toward this interview stuff being another linch pin that has not been released previously.

Page 42, Gowdy is arguing with the FBI lawyers over their use of "on-going investigations" to not reply to answers. Interestingly, the FBI lawyers outright admit (or use the excuse) that they are acting under guidance from Mueller himself to not answer these "mysterious interview" questions. They had no reason to not answer Gowdy's questions either, because he was only asking the location and date of these interviews, nothing substantive like the context or what was said.
Q: Did you travel abroad much?
A: Abroad, once
Q: And where to?
A: REDACTED (London)
Q: And what were the dates of that travel?
A: REDACTED
Q: And that was for official business?
A: Yes.
Q: Can you tell me what you did in REDACTED while you were there in early REDACTED?
A: I can't do that sir, I'm sorry.
Q: Pardon?
A: On advice of my counsel...blah, blah, blah
Page 57, Very interesting. Jackson asks Page is she's ever seen anyone applying political bias in an investigation at the FBI. And Page answers yes. Except, the twist is that she says some "senior executives" who were anti-Clinton, were telling people on the Hillary investigation, that they "had to get her" and were "counting on them to get her", her being Hillary. The names of these "senior executives" at the FBI are Sandy Kable and Randy Coleman. It seems like Page was referring to something Strzok had told her, because these "senior executives" were talking to "subordinates" on the investigation. And since they're senior executives, they're obviously still below people like Comey and McCabe. So the "subordinate" had to of been Strzok or someone else around Strzok. Seems like Jackson is trying to make a flimsy case for bias in the other direction, and ignore the fact of bias on Strzok/Comey/McCabe/others part. Jackson's entire line of questioning is just to run cover and to muddle things by trying to get Lisa Page to answer non substantive questions that she can then turn around and use as talking points to say "See, no bias here....but there was bias on the other side!", even though these "senior executives" didn't actually have anything to do with the case, it was just said in passing. But it does prove that there was support at the FBI for going after Clinton. But support at the FBI for prosecuting Clinton is treated and written off as "political bias", how convenient. Ironically, it's pointed out that Lisa Page herself showed bias in a text she wrote trashing the Russians. So here she is, part of a "Russia" investigation, trashing Russia, trashing Trump, saying other people showed bias by merely saying "you need to get Hillary". Not to mention all the other people on the investigation that also trashed Trump. But we're supposed to worry about 2 senior executives saying "you need to get Hillary", who aren't even on the case?!

Page 60, Sheila Jackson asks Page if she leaked the existence of the investigation, she says no, then goes on to ask who would be in a position to leak and such. But we already know today that the leak was McCabe/Comey. Lisa Page goes on to say why she wouldn't do that, and explains how against policy and wrong such a thing would be (basically confirming that was McCabe/Comey did was illegal). On page 61, Page claims they have "incredibly damning information that could have been released" that wasn't leaked in that leak. I don't know if that's information we don't yet know about, or just nothing burger information we already do know about that the FBI tried to portray as damaging. My guess is she's referring to the phony Dossier. But again, Sheila Jackson is only using this line of questioning in order to contrast how damaging the leak of Hillary's investigation was. She doesn't actually care about the leaks in the "Russia" investigation.

Page 63-64, Page says that because of speculation of the secret Russia investigation in the news, on Comey went to the DOJ to get permission to reveal its existence, which was revealed on March 2017. Dana Boente was acting Deputy AG at the time.....who is coincidentally general counsel at the FBI at the point. So Deputy AG who OK'd Comey's leak of the Russia investigation, went on to become FBI special counsel? Seems pretty fishy to me. This was also around the time that Yates and Clapper were testifying before Congress.

Page 66, Not quite verbatim; Lisa page: "We didn't take any steps to ensure the investigation was secret but we were careful due to the extraordinary sensitivity of the case. I can't say if actual steps were taken to hide the investigation, we just made sure people who did not have a need to know, did not know what we were investigating".
Lisa Page: Everyone At FBI Opposed Letting Hillary’s Lawyers Attend FBI Interview
We all at the FBI disagreed with it. And I recall both lawyers for the FBI calling to — calling over to the prosecutors, and I am certain that [Peter Strzok] called over to prosecutors to say, ‘This is BS.’ I’m sure that is probably how he would have phrased it, like ‘Why are they attending?’ And the answer that we received back then was that they did not have the — they didn’t see a legal basis to exclude them from the interview because Secretary Clinton was representing them as lawyers.

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Post by kybkh » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:25 pm

This is just one aspect of the corruption to be exposed. Remember CFH is proven total bullshit. The best they got are lies made by inexperienced politicians concerned with covering a meeting that was set up by GapS Fuaion.
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Post by Fife » Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:59 am

Lisa Page: Obama DOJ Ordered FBI Not to Prosecute Hillary Clinton
Former FBI legal counsel Lisa Page testified to Congress that the Justice Department ordered the FBI not to charge former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with “gross negligence” by mishandling classified information.
Transcripts of Page’s closed-door testimony in July 2018 were released Tuesday by Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA) on Tuesday, which included the following exchange with Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-TX):

RATCLIFFE: So let me if I can, I know I’m testing your memory. But when you say advice you got from the Department, you’re making it sound like it was the Department that told you: You’re not going to charge gross negligence because we’re the prosecutors and we’re telling you we’re not going to …

PAGE: That is correct.

RATFLIFFE: …bring a case based on that.

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Post by nmoore63 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:26 am

Rooting on the institutional rot is the #1 reason to support the trump presidency.

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Post by The Conservative » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:36 am

Fife wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:59 am
Lisa Page: Obama DOJ Ordered FBI Not to Prosecute Hillary Clinton
Former FBI legal counsel Lisa Page testified to Congress that the Justice Department ordered the FBI not to charge former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with “gross negligence” by mishandling classified information.
Transcripts of Page’s closed-door testimony in July 2018 were released Tuesday by Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA) on Tuesday, which included the following exchange with Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-TX):

RATCLIFFE: So let me if I can, I know I’m testing your memory. But when you say advice you got from the Department, you’re making it sound like it was the Department that told you: You’re not going to charge gross negligence because we’re the prosecutors and we’re telling you we’re not going to …

PAGE: That is correct.

RATFLIFFE: …bring a case based on that.
I'm sorry to say, but this is old news. More than one of us posted about this a while back...
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Post by Fife » Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:48 am

🤕

Gotta stay lit around here, fam, or get dusted, I reckon.

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Post by kybkh » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:05 am

I gave everybody the straight dope a couple weeks ago. Epoch Times had all these leaks last fall.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:35 pm

Fife wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:59 am
Lisa Page: Obama DOJ Ordered FBI Not to Prosecute Hillary Clinton
Former FBI legal counsel Lisa Page testified to Congress that the Justice Department ordered the FBI not to charge former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton with “gross negligence” by mishandling classified information.
Transcripts of Page’s closed-door testimony in July 2018 were released Tuesday by Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA) on Tuesday, which included the following exchange with Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-TX):

RATCLIFFE: So let me if I can, I know I’m testing your memory. But when you say advice you got from the Department, you’re making it sound like it was the Department that told you: You’re not going to charge gross negligence because we’re the prosecutors and we’re telling you we’re not going to …

PAGE: That is correct.

RATFLIFFE: …bring a case based on that.
This has been obvious to all non-NPCs. As soon as it was known that Obama himself emailed Hillary at her private account. It's also obvious that Obama issued the orders to spy on Trump, we know it started in early 2016, with research back to December 2015..................... we will find out some day that it goes back far further, at least to 2012 when Trump forced Obama to produce a birth certificate.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:36 pm

kybkh wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:05 am
I gave everybody the straight dope a couple weeks ago. Epoch Times had all these leaks last fall.
+1

Conservative Treehouse has had it as well, both have done Pulitzer work on this story but will get no recognition.
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Post by The Conservative » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:38 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:36 pm
kybkh wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:05 am
I gave everybody the straight dope a couple weeks ago. Epoch Times had all these leaks last fall.
+1

Conservative Treehouse has had it as well, both have done Pulitzer work on this story but will get no recognition.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... es-but-was

This was one of the last links I posted, right after it came out.

Either way, the info was there a long time ago, people just were ignoring it because "Fuck Trump!"
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