Plutarch on animal ethics

[Fife]

Don't know about pie, but it's the time of year for some smoked sweetbone, alright.

[Montegriffo]

Don't know about pie, but it's the time of year for some smoked sweetbone, alright.

Smoked is a nice way to get some flavour into a bland meat.
A bit rude to post bunny corpse pics in JD's thread though.

[Fife]

Yeah, making pictures of dinner is like drawing cartoons of the prophet.

[Speaker to Animals]

How are vegans supposed to care for carnivorous and omnivorous animals without killing other animals?

When I see a vegan with a cat, I know that person is completely full of shit and probably lost so much IQ from poor nutrition they are incapable of seeing the problem.

Hi, my name is Deborah, and I am a total vegan. I work at the zoo, taking care of the precious lions. Because I care.

[DrYouth]

Would Ted Bundy assume you have repressed serial killer instincts?

Humans have survival instincts, but where are the predatory ones?

A child in a normal family kills small animals without being taught, he goes to the psychiatrist, because he's a psychopath, and will move on to humans given enough time. That's an instinctual predator.

Social conditioning teaches children that it's good to kill animals, these children are not inborn killers, but they have been conditioned to violence.

Instincts are not black and white...

They exist on a curve.

Complete repression of aggressive instincts is as unnatural as free reign for aggressive instincts.

Fear of aggressive instincts looks like banning toy guns and war toys...
It looks like a no-tolerance for rough housing and play fighting.
It looks like a moralistic no tolerance for any consumption of animal flesh.

You are on that side of the curve.

[heydaralon]

Notice how the pig in this picture is smiling. He's fine with what happened. Don't think he asked JohnDonne to fight his battles for him, not that an effeminate Vegan could do any fighting beyond putting up a struggle with his belt buckle to pull down his pants and get butthole reamed...

[JohnDonne]

How are vegans supposed to care for carnivorous and omnivorous animals without killing other animals?

When I see a vegan with a cat, I know that person is completely full of shit and probably lost so much IQ from poor nutrition they are incapable of seeing the problem.

Hi, my name is Deborah, and I am a total vegan. I work at the zoo, taking care of the precious lions. Because I care.

No ethical vegan would approve of a zoo, you mean an animal sanctuary?

Pets, especially carnivorous ones are a bad idea. But they have vegan cat foods with synthetic taurine, surprise, the only peer reviewed study on vegan cats showed they were healthy. That’s because meat isn’t magic, say it with me, we need nutrients, not ingredients.

[DrYouth]

Pets, especially carnivorous ones are a bad idea.

Now you are down on dogs?
Man's best friend?
Where does this end?

[JohnDonne]

Would Ted Bundy assume you have repressed serial killer instincts?

Humans have survival instincts, but where are the predatory ones?

A child in a normal family kills small animals without being taught, he goes to the psychiatrist, because he's a psychopath, and will move on to humans given enough time. That's an instinctual predator.

Social conditioning teaches children that it's good to kill animals, these children are not inborn killers, but they have been conditioned to violence.

Instincts are not black and white...

They exist on a curve.

Complete repression of aggressive instincts is as unnatural as free reign for aggressive instincts.

Fear of aggressive instincts looks like banning toy guns and war toys...
It looks like a no-tolerance for rough housing and play fighting.
It looks like a moralistic no tolerance for any consumption of animal flesh.

You are on that side of the curve.

You’ve moved the goal posts from “predator” to “aggressive.” I never said aggressive instincts were psychopathic, I’m happy with wrasslin, guns, fast cars, combat sports, and competition, but that’s not predatory.

I’m vegan, not Canadian, I can be very aggressive.

[DrYouth]

What are those?

Rabbits?