F35 vs. A10?

F35 vs A10?

F35
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A10
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by brewster » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:23 pm

UCAV's are the future, others see it even if our brass are paid to look away.

Https://news.usni.org/2019/03/05/report ... y-relevant
https://www.janes.com/article/86831/aer ... an-concept
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Haha, nice term there Carlus, 'military Keynesianism'. I'd rather we pitch money into our crumbing infrastructure than Smitty's pockets. I was chatting yesterday with a sewer engineer installing new pipe a block away, but there's no money to do my block even though the sewer floods my basement in any heavy rain. There's cities all over this country still sending raw sewage into the rivers, yet we buy half trillion dollar military boondoggles.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:24 pm

Actual autonomy requires Commander Data.

Commander Data is code.

Code is money.

Commander Data ain't cheap.

Until he is, the pilots do the job better for cheaper.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:30 pm

The bulk of the price of the F-35, is the 8.6 million lines of code for the Sensor Fusion Engine.

It's not easy, it's not cheap. Commander Data is just that on steroids.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by C-Mag » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:31 pm

brewster wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:23 pm
UCAV's are the future, others see it even if our brass are paid to look away.

Https://news.usni.org/2019/03/05/report ... y-relevant
https://www.janes.com/article/86831/aer ... an-concept
https://jamestown.org/program/syrian-ex ... -part-one/
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... -s-70-ucav

Haha, nice term there Carlus, 'military Keynesianism'. I'd rather we pitch money into our crumbing infrastructure than Smitty's pockets. I was chatting yesterday with a sewer engineer installing new pipe a block away, but there's no money to do my block even though the sewer floods my basement in any heavy rain. There's cities all over this country still sending raw sewage into the rivers, yet we buy half trillion dollar military boondoggles.
Military Keynesianism is a very real thing in the US. That's why every Congressional district has a military facility in it. I'm not necessarily opposed to it per se, but I am warry of it.

Infrastructure is a boondoggle, has nothing to do with military spending, that's Lima tripe. We have plenty of money for infrastructure. But the problem with repairing that sewer pipe is that its a pipe underground that carries shit. No glory or campaign slogans in shit pipes underground, NOW, take those bucks and build new schools, sporting venues or parks and you've got something.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:34 pm

In terms of drone wingmen who are not flown by Commander Data?

Don't need them, Tomahawk cruise missile already does that job.

Ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:39 pm

Thing about stealth, only passive VHF radar can pick it up, but the antennas for VHF are huge, they can't hide them, they're not mobile, so those you just take out with Tomahawk cruise missiles.

Tactical radars can't see it, strategic radars can't get a lock on it, but they can see it, problem being those radars are sitting ducks for any old missile in the inventory.

Doesn't matter which way you go, stealth is still in effect, increase the gain, you lose range, increase the range, you lose gain, change the frequency, need a huge antenna, low frequency passive, you see too much clutter, there is no quick and dirty cure for stealth.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:47 pm

LOL

How did the Serbs do it, genius?

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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:49 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:47 pm
LOL

How did the Serbs do it, genius?
Stealth is not invisibility, the Air Force fucked up, they got cocky and flew the F-117's down that same valley over and over again, same route in, dozens of times, so the Serbs predicted they would do it again and were waiting for them. Planning failure.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:56 pm

Like, tactics still apply, it's not as simple as just flying an invisible drone in and out down the same routes and never having to maneuver. This is why you need the pilots, until a Commander Data arrives who can actually think rather than only make simple binary choices.
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Re: F35 vs. A10?

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:58 pm

In the meantime, TLAMs can already make simple binary choices, the not so super drone is here, and he's been here all along, evolved Tomahawk is just a unmanned wingman who goes in first.

JASSM, JSOW, JSM, same same.
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