What's going on in India?

[StCapps]

F-22 has two engines, F-35 has one engine, and StA loves redundancy even when it's redundant. That's his best point, and it's not even a good one, ripped right from the Mother Jones anti-F-35 talking points list.

[Speaker to Animals]

Aerial combat hasn't worked the way that is portrayed in Top Gun for a while now, but StA is too busing huffing the nostalgia paint and sucking the F-15's cock to notice.

Neither of you know what the fuck you are talking about and straw manning my position cannot save your argument from destruction.

This has nothing to do with your silly notions of "aerial combat". It is about a sub-par performing aircraft with no redundancy and shit chances of survival in fifth generation combat. It is also about the fact that for anything we would realistically use these lawn darts, an F-15X would do better and more cost effectively.

It is about the fact that the F-35 cannot even fly across the God damned ocean without refuel and in many environments is not safely operated due to having only one God damned engine.

Neither of you bozos understand what the fuck you are talking about.

Dude the F-35's performance metrics don't even vary that much from the F-22 you champion as the pinnacle of performance. Even by the metrics you cherrypick, the F-35 is far from subpar.

You can't talk about how great Raptor is because of it's performance metrics and then shit on Panther, as if it isn't the next best thing, when it clearly is the next best thing.

Go home, you're drunk.

The fuck? It varies a great deal. It has insufficient range for modern warfare. We cannot depend on refuellers. They are the first targets in a serious air war. Do you not process that?

Then there is a lack of redundancy. One engine means the jet has only one primary system of anything. Hydraulics. Power. Flight controls. They all depend on that one engine.

Do you not understand that flying across an ocean in a single engine anything is dangerous? Commercial airlines are not allowed to fly like that.

[Speaker to Animals]

Eight missiles worth a damn is all you get too.

Ridiculous. Stealth fighters will need support roles from something like the F-15X and the new fighter drone.

The F-35 has literally no legit role in air dominance. It is garbage.

[Smitty-48]

F-22 has two engines, F-35 has one engine, and StA loves redundancy even when it's redundant. That's his best point, and it's not even a good one.

The F-22 doesn't have the two engines for redundancy, that's a myth, it's just for power, it's not like the A-10 where the engines are in separated pods. Most crashes are actually flight control system failures not engine loss, American engines are exponentially more reliable now.

[Smitty-48]

Eight missiles worth a damn is all you get too.

Ridiculous. Stealth fighters will need support roles from something like the F-15X and the new fighter drone.

The F-35 has literally no legit role in air dominance. It is garbage.

If the F-35 is in max missile mode, it can carry 16 AAM, but in a dogfight, it's not going to have time to get that many shots off, dogfights last for but a few seconds, so in stealth mode, 6 AAM is perfectly fine.

[Speaker to Animals]

WRONG

You have no idea wtf you are posting about. You are just pulling nonsense out of your ass.

[StCapps]

F-22 has two engines, F-35 has one engine, and StA loves redundancy even when it's redundant. That's his best point, and it's not even a good one.

The F-22 doesn't have the two engines for redundancy, that's a myth, it's just for power, it's not like the A-10 where the engines are in separated pods. Most crashes are actually flight control system failures not engine loss, American engines are exponentially more reliable now.

A myth that StA clings to, to claim that F-22 blows the F-35 out of the water performance wise. I mean the one engine aircraft can't handle the arctic, that shit is straight outta Mother Jones, and StA parrots it non-stop.

[Speaker to Animals]

Jets don't have more than one engine for redundancy. That's a myth.



LAUGH MY FUCKING ASS OFF!


All serious aircraft have more than one engine precisely for redundancy. You are just making shit up now.

[StCapps]

StA always has a boner for redundancy, it's like his favorite thing, especially when it's just a talking point myth perpetuated by folks who will shit on any fighter plane that America will purchase. The same folks who talked Obama into scrapping his beloved F-22, are the very people whose talking points StA now parrots.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's my favorite thing because ditching an aircraft in the middle of the ocean is a good way to get dead.