Jordan Peterson
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Re: Jordan Peterson
There has to be a balance. People like you are as deranged as collectivists.
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Ain't nothing Christian about that mind virus.Fife wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:31 amI'll settle for "Christian," degenerate. Thanks.
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I'd say if you live in an area that has all those religions then you don't live in a community in any real sense. Like I said way up back in this thread I don't have time to engage in real discussion. You wanted my view and I wrote them out. Now your asking for specific scenario based thought experiment questions. And you aren't discussing you are simply asking questions to be contrarian, or out of boredom maybe (?) take solace in the fact that you can still do what you want in your own home. Good times.Fife wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:30 amSo "social animals" means the herd shall bend to the will of the "community" in all matters?GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:16 amIn summary, it would be unbalanced to not give what the community has made traditional by way of custom and loyalties to give. A person is not "free" to live as he pleases. The man in the woods is only allowed to be the hermit he is b/c the community beside him and around allow him to be that man. This is how social animals are.
My community has a strong tradition of giving directly to Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, and several other churches. I don't know of anyone (although there might be) who gives to all of them.
How does the "community" decide what my exact religious giving should look like?
My community has a very strong tradition of giving to various types of food charities. How shall the community determine which ones I shall give to, and how much?
What is the permitting process like to become a "hermit?" What official license from the "community" do I need to live on my own land peacefully in whatever way I choose?
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Are you just trying to insult now? I thought we were talking in "good faith."GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:37 amI'd say if you live in an area that has all those religions then you don't live in a community in any real sense. Like I said way up back in this thread I don't have time to engage in real discussion. You wanted my view and I wrote them out. Now your asking for specific scenario based thought experiment questions. And you aren't discussing you are simply asking questions to be contrarian, or out of boredom maybe (?) take solace in the fact that you can still do what you want in your own home. Good times.Fife wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:30 amSo "social animals" means the herd shall bend to the will of the "community" in all matters?GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:16 amIn summary, it would be unbalanced to not give what the community has made traditional by way of custom and loyalties to give. A person is not "free" to live as he pleases. The man in the woods is only allowed to be the hermit he is b/c the community beside him and around allow him to be that man. This is how social animals are.
My community has a strong tradition of giving directly to Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, and several other churches. I don't know of anyone (although there might be) who gives to all of them.
How does the "community" decide what my exact religious giving should look like?
My community has a very strong tradition of giving to various types of food charities. How shall the community determine which ones I shall give to, and how much?
What is the permitting process like to become a "hermit?" What official license from the "community" do I need to live on my own land peacefully in whatever way I choose?
You're being intellectually dishonest. You don't want "discussion." All you want is some kind of endorphin rush off of getting a win or getting someone to agree with whatever is coming out of your mouth. It doesn't make me happy to say that.
Let me know when you are not so distracted that drive-by insults of my "in no real sense" community are all you have time for.
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The problem is that this ideology you are infected with sees all humans as essentially identical and interchangeable where it comes to what forms a community. This is wrong. We now know that ethnic diversity erodes and ultimately destroys community.
The more diverse your "community" becomes, the less it constitutes an actual community. Living in proximity to people does not make a community. Community requires social bonds, duties and obligations, and shared cultural traditions.
The more diverse your "community" becomes, the less it constitutes an actual community. Living in proximity to people does not make a community. Community requires social bonds, duties and obligations, and shared cultural traditions.
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Not trying to be insulting (mishap of texting online and rushing) and im not being triumphant about claiming your area is not a community. I think most places in our country are not really communities. If you are insulted then I don't know what to say other than we disagree with definitions and what makes a people whole. No worries though , I mean its not going to impact you either way what I say, right? I don't want a "win" here thats your projection speaking. I also am not interested in a discussion now like I said before. I also speculated that you are not interested in discussing things like this here and now either. I base that off your post that just had questions without any explanation or your own definitions and comments to give it a thoughtful context. And again, remember I didn't want to get into it and you didn't want a paper either so...what gives, really?Fife wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:43 amAre you just trying to insult now? I thought we were talking in "good faith."GloryofGreece wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:37 amI'd say if you live in an area that has all those religions then you don't live in a community in any real sense. Like I said way up back in this thread I don't have time to engage in real discussion. You wanted my view and I wrote them out. Now your asking for specific scenario based thought experiment questions. And you aren't discussing you are simply asking questions to be contrarian, or out of boredom maybe (?) take solace in the fact that you can still do what you want in your own home. Good times.Fife wrote: ↑Sat Feb 16, 2019 11:30 am
So "social animals" means the herd shall bend to the will of the "community" in all matters?
My community has a strong tradition of giving directly to Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, Jewish, Catholic, Muslim, and several other churches. I don't know of anyone (although there might be) who gives to all of them.
How does the "community" decide what my exact religious giving should look like?
My community has a very strong tradition of giving to various types of food charities. How shall the community determine which ones I shall give to, and how much?
What is the permitting process like to become a "hermit?" What official license from the "community" do I need to live on my own land peacefully in whatever way I choose?
You're being intellectually dishonest. You don't want "discussion." All you want is some kind of endorphin rush off of getting a win or getting someone to agree with whatever is coming out of your mouth. It doesn't make me happy to say that.
Let me know when you are not so distracted that drive-by insults of my "in no real sense" community are all you have time for.
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Re: Jordan Peterson
It's happening!
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