What is Mankind's Greatest Invention?

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Also, using human waste to create compost you use to grow food is not such a great idea.
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Imagine the smell
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The use of human shit for making compost is one of those overrated bullshit environazi myths. It's actually very dangerous if not done right and even when done right people are shitting out all kinds of toxins and pharmaceuticals.

Really bad idea. Hard pass.


Make compost out of your food leftovers and stuff like that.

You can make really good compost by farming earthworms. You can seed the fields with some of the worms as well so that they dig down deep and bring nutrients up near the surface for your crops.

A compost toilet for Americans out there is basically the portapotty experience. Imagine a portapotty as your regular toilet.
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TheReal_ND wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:39 pm Imagine the smell
All mine smells of is sawdust.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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Speaker to Animals wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:42 pm The use of human shit for making compost is one of those overrated bullshit environazi myths. It's actually very dangerous if not done right and even when done right people are shitting out all kinds of toxins and pharmaceuticals.

Really bad idea. Hard pass.


Make compost out of your food leftovers and stuff like that.

You can make really good compost by farming earthworms. You can seed the fields with some of the worms as well so that they dig down deep and bring nutrients up near the surface for your crops.

A compost toilet for Americans out there is basically the portapotty experience. Imagine a portapotty as your regular toilet.
Done right is just a matter of leaving it to compost for long enough.
Any pharmaceuticals you flush go into the water supply anyway. Better left to degrade during the composting process.
For legal reasons, we are not threatening to destroy U.S. government property with our glorious medieval siege engine. But if we wanted to, we could. But we won’t. But we could.
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When the body is given opiods, it cannot use all of them, so it defecates them out. The trace amounts of these in stool is called Shitanyl.

Shitanyl abuse is a very serious problem where I live. These teens will take oxy and then collect their own shit in a 2 litre bottle and put a balloon on the lip of it. As the feces ferments, the gases cause the balloon to inflate. I know what you are going to say next:

"Daralon that's called jenkem. I used to huff jenkem in high school with my buddies, and we all are MDs and CPAs now. Kids experiment and then they mature."

I agree with that. Jenkem is something we all did, and I can't say that I didn't try it a few times at parties or before my HS graduation walk. What you need to understand is that this is not the jenkem that you or I used to huff. It has gotten far more potent and dangerous due to all the various Rx compounds that are now in human shit. Shitanyl is not your grandparents jenkem. It is an OD waiting to happen. It is important to sit your kids down and let them know that while jenkem-huffing is harmless fun, it can lead to problems and is a gateway to shitanyl or sticking aquarium tubing into a methadone clinic septic tank in an attempt to harvest narco-bowel-movements in attempt to stave off the shitdrawals. Often shitanyl addicts will be caught in a vicious cycle where their withdrawals will cause them to have diarrhea, which they will then capture into a bottle and attempt to huff their own opiod ridden diarrhea to get high. This last until their high wears off and they will have diarrhea again, repeating the cycle. It is an absolutely shitty way to live...
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Montegriffo wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:02 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:42 pm The use of human shit for making compost is one of those overrated bullshit environazi myths. It's actually very dangerous if not done right and even when done right people are shitting out all kinds of toxins and pharmaceuticals.

Really bad idea. Hard pass.


Make compost out of your food leftovers and stuff like that.

You can make really good compost by farming earthworms. You can seed the fields with some of the worms as well so that they dig down deep and bring nutrients up near the surface for your crops.

A compost toilet for Americans out there is basically the portapotty experience. Imagine a portapotty as your regular toilet.
Done right is just a matter of leaving it to compost for long enough.
Any pharmaceuticals you flush go into the water supply anyway. Better left to degrade during the composting process.
No. Using human shit as fertilizer in any capacity is unsafe. It's a terrible idea. If you think food contamination is bad now, it will be exponentially worse if we moved to human shit fertilizer at a large scale.

It's not even that great of a fertilizer for most crops.
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Also, food grown using biosolids has limited market potential for the small farmer. This is industrial shitty farming writ large. Consumers will not purchase food labeled as such if they have the economic choice to purchase safer produce. You cannot sell produce like that in in our organic markets either. The only way to do it is for big agra to industrialize it, never inform consumers what they did, and sell it through non-organic markets like Walmart. It's one if the reasons non-organic produce us getting people sick, in my opinion.

Bad idea. More environmentalist woo woo.

We should not use human shit in the food supply. Ever.
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For instance, last year there was a point when most of the non-organic lettuce in industrial supermarkets got recalled and taken off the shelves. Lots of us joked about illegals picking lettuce after taking a dump in the field, but there is no way that could account for the scale of the contamination. There is minimal processing of lettuce as well, mostly just washing which is automated for industrial produce as far as I know.

The government never actually told the public what caused it, but I suspect one of the top culprit was the subsidized "biosolids" (aka compost made from human shit) these factory farms were using.

It os not as likely as factory farms cheating by using non-potable water applied directly to the lettuce, but not far behind.