Would not the correct form of Christianity be following the exact words of Jesus, not of Paul or any Popes?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:05 pmWould not the right form of Judaism simply be keeping the Covenant, even though you don't have a Temple any longer?
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We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND
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If the Pope is an apostate, then you shouldn't follow him. If he is a good Pope, then he is just advancing the Word of Christ. St. Paul acted under the guidance of Christ as well.brewster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:21 pmWould not the correct form of Christianity be following the exact words of Jesus, not of Paul or any Popes?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:05 pmWould not the right form of Judaism simply be keeping the Covenant, even though you don't have a Temple any longer?
Technically, we should just follow the ten commandants, receive our sacraments (especially confession when we sin), and strive to perfect ourselves.
In our context, the Covenant is to love one another as Christ loves us. So, yeah, we fail at that just like you fail at your Covenant.
What I mean is that you ought to try to follow the Covenant. I read a lot of goofy stories about some kinds of Jews trying to skirt the ritual laws in various ways, like hanging wires around a neighborhood or something, like God is a lawyer.
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Must be fun keeping your head on your shoulders after deciding the pope is an apostate, Savonarola didn't manage it, he was used for kindling.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:25 pmIf the Pope is an apostate, then you shouldn't follow him. If he is a good Pope, then he is just advancing the Word of Christ. St. Paul acted under the guidance of Christ as well.brewster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:21 pmWould not the correct form of Christianity be following the exact words of Jesus, not of Paul or any Popes?Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:05 pmWould not the right form of Judaism simply be keeping the Covenant, even though you don't have a Temple any longer?
The more rules you make, the more you get people trying to weasel out. Human nature. As I understand it, this was a portion of what Jesus was trying to reform in Temple Judaism. It seems the nature of these thing to complicate.Technically, we should just follow the ten commandants, receive our sacraments (especially confession when we sin), and strive to perfect ourselves.
In our context, the Covenant is to love one another as Christ loves us. So, yeah, we fail at that just like you fail at your Covenant.
What I mean is that you ought to try to follow the Covenant. I read a lot of goofy stories about some kinds of Jews trying to skirt the ritual laws in various ways, like hanging wires around a neighborhood or something, like God is a lawyer.
I may have used this one here before:
Point being, see the forest, not the trees. Pass everything you do by the Golden Rule, and you won't go far wrong. But that requires that rare commodity, self honesty. Hence the rest of the rules to get rid of the ambiguity.One famous account in the Talmud (Shabbat 31a) tells about a gentile who stated that he would accept Judaism only if a rabbi would teach him the entire Torah while he, the prospective convert, stood on one foot. He ended up encountering the famous Rabbi Hillel who said:
"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary"
We are only accustomed to dealing with like twenty online personas at a time so when we only have about ten people some people have to be strawmanned in order to advance our same relative go nowhere nonsense positions. -TheReal_ND
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Agnostics making a run for the title now
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Where do Earth Worshippers fall on the list ?
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What's everyone giving up for Lent? I think I'm going to quit fapping to Instagram whores. That's not really giving up a luxury though so I will probably supplement that by lightly fasting. Maybe quit day drinking on my days off.
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Shit. I just had a red bull
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When does lent start up? Give me a couple weeks notice and I'll pledge to stop vaping CBD oil for 3 hours.TheReal_ND wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:31 pmWhat's everyone giving up for Lent? I think I'm going to quit fapping to Instagram whores. That's not really giving up a luxury though so I will probably supplement that by lightly fasting. Maybe quit day drinking on my days off.