Vlad, Godfrey, and Mohammed Ali Float Re-Segregation

[Speaker to Animals]

It's a matter of degree of similarity. That's how humans operate. The more similar a people, the more likely they get along.

That said, even with the minor differences between the various subcultures of what became England, they still fought massive wars. Those differences spilled over into the United States. As minor as the difference between the Southern Cavalier and the Northern Puritan may have been, it still resulted in half a million people slaughtered in a bitter civil war.

So adding tens of millions -- if not down the road a hundred million -- people who are totally unlike the founding peoples of the United States is going to make that better?

That never works. It literally never works. Every time you create these large multi-ethnic states, you get Austria-Hungary, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Rwanda, and so on.

Even China is headed towards sectarian violence right now.

Did I mention this is a fucking retarded idea?

I guess I am the only one here that takes history seriously, or maybe I just don't believe that THIS TIME we will get it right. I hear the same nonsense from the communists about their kool aid cult ideology as well. /shrug

[DBTrek]

It's a matter of degree of similarity. That's how humans operate. The more similar a people, the more likely they get along.

That certainly explains hundreds of years of bloody conflict between protestants and Catholics, or Sunni and Shiite Muslims. The more similar people are, the better they get along. Clearly you're an astute student of history.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's a matter of degree of similarity. That's how humans operate. The more similar a people, the more likely they get along.

That certainly explains hundreds of years of bloody conflict between protestants and Catholics, or Sunni and Shiite Muslims. The more similar people are, the better they get along. Clearly you're an astute student of history.

Yep. Even small differences can result in sectarian conflict.

But you think you are clever enough to navigate the potential for violence amongst people with differences totally opposed to one another.

It reminds me of a socialist who thinks he is clever enough to get socialism right the next time..

[DBTrek]

So to recap the brilliance revealed in the "civic nationalism" discussion thus far:

1. Monocultures don't have sectarian violence - File under 'D' for Duh, since a monoculture is a single sect, and sectarian violence requires at least two.

2. Ancient Greeks, Etruscans, Celts, Romans, and Samnites weren't different people because they all lived where modern day Italy is now, and since racist exist we should all dispense with the values of freedom, tolerance, equality, and individual rights (aka Civic Nationalism) - File under 'T' for trash. All of that bullshit is straight up, easily identifiable, trash, and should be parked next to the internet recycle bin for collection on Tuesday.

Glad we got that all handled.

[Speaker to Animals]

Genius thinks he can get it right this time. Even though we couldn't even manage to avert violence in America with the relatively minor differences between Yankees, Southerners, Midlanders, and Appalachians, DB thinks this time we can get it right with people who are totally different races and religions, who believe things that are a direct contradiction to the founding principles of our nation, and who overtly want to destroy us.

Great idea.

Filed right next to Bernie Sanders' ideas.

[DBTrek]

StA searching for his next theory.

Sorry the fact that any deviation from complete, Borg-like, uniformity can lead to conflict disturbs you.
Making your peace with it is a lot easier than trying to convince the rest of us to become clones of you though.

[Montegriffo]

You will be assimilated, resistance is futile.

[Speaker to Animals]

StA searching for his next theory.

Sorry the fact that any deviation from complete, Borg-like, uniformity can lead to conflict disturbs you.
Making your peace with it is a lot easier than trying to convince the rest of us to become clones of you though.

LOL

The guy who can't name a single success story is claiming victory.

It's a fucking fantastic idea to just cram totally foreign people together in the same country. Ask the Israelis and Palestinians.

I am sure the Cherokee down the road from me agree too.

Clown.

[DBTrek]

The guy who can't name a single success story is claiming victory.

Not only did I easily name a success story, we all got the entertainment of watching you try to debunk it by claiming Ancient Greeks, Etruscans, Celts, Romans, and Samnites were the same people because they all lived where modern day Italy is today.

Your argument is trash.
Your rebuttal to the facts easily debunking your argument was trash.
Your insistence now that no one ever cited a successful example is trash.

Beginning to sense a theme with your theory yet?

[Speaker to Animals]

You named the Roman Empire.

Which -- fucking news flash -- collapsed from multiculturalism.

LMFAO