Fake News

[JohnDonne]

You wrote some bullshit argument and attributed it to me. That is lying. From now on, just quote my actual words, thanks.

Look at your words dumbass

The solution to the problem is realizing that "journalism" is as dishonest a term as "fact checker"

One can infer that if the very terms “fact checker” and “journalism” are dishonest in your mind then you believe human fallibility puts the lie to them.

I inferred further conclusions from your premise. Then you inexplicably supported those conclusions while calling me a liar.

Your "inference" was bullshit that does not follow from the above quote. Dumbass.

It kind of does follow, if the very notion of journalism is “fraud” there has to be reasons, right? You’ve talked about agendas and lies, right? Human flaw stuff, applicable to any pursuit of truth, like science and history.

[JohnDonne]

It's simple really, say you're on assignment for a newspaper.

You take a photo of a skateboarder. What can you say about that picture of the skateboarder to your editors?

Say you took this photo:



What could you say fact wise to your editor who relies on you to come with facts?

I’m not sure where you’re going with this. The most important aspect of journalism is credibility, nothing that could be said about that picture is necessarily true other than its an image depicting someone skateboarding. It could be a cgi rendering for all we know. The facts come from the journalists credibility along with the justified belief that what they’re claiming is most likely true, things like the context, where and when it was taken, what the situation was and so on.

You take the photo and you can't attest to whether or not it is cgi?

If I know I took the picture then I know it. Everyone else has to rely on my credibility

[Speaker to Animals]

Look at your words dumbass



One can infer that if the very terms “fact checker” and “journalism” are dishonest in your mind then you believe human fallibility puts the lie to them.

I inferred further conclusions from your premise. Then you inexplicably supported those conclusions while calling me a liar.

Your "inference" was bullshit that does not follow from the above quote. Dumbass.

It kind of does follow, if the very notion of journalism is “fraud” there has to be reasons, right? You’ve talked about agendas and lies, right? Human flaw stuff, applicable to any pursuit of truth, like science and history.

You really possess no capacity for honesty.

It does not follow. This is my position. I am telling you that is NOT what I am saying. Fuck off and stop lying you little cunt.

[jediuser598]

I’m not sure where you’re going with this. The most important aspect of journalism is credibility, nothing that could be said about that picture is necessarily true other than its an image depicting someone skateboarding. It could be a cgi rendering for all we know. The facts come from the journalists credibility along with the justified belief that what they’re claiming is most likely true, things like the context, where and when it was taken, what the situation was and so on.

You take the photo and you can't attest to whether or not it is cgi?

If I know I took the picture then I know it. Everyone else has to rely on my credibility

Credibility based on evidence.

Say I'm covering a story, and not only do I upload 5 photographs that I think tell the story of the event, but I upload the other 1500 that I took. Then even the most critical person has to reasonably come to at least a few conclusions.

[JohnDonne]

Your "inference" was bullshit that does not follow from the above quote. Dumbass.

It kind of does follow, if the very notion of journalism is “fraud” there has to be reasons, right? You’ve talked about agendas and lies, right? Human flaw stuff, applicable to any pursuit of truth, like science and history.

You really possess no capacity for honesty.

It does not follow. This is my position. I am telling you that is NOT what I am saying. Fuck off and stop lying you little cunt.

Then tell us the reason all journalism is a fraud, you dumb bitch

[JohnDonne]

You take the photo and you can't attest to whether or not it is cgi?

If I know I took the picture then I know it. Everyone else has to rely on my credibility

Credibility based on evidence.

Say I'm covering a story, and not only do I upload 5 photographs that I think tell the story of the event, but I upload the other 1500 that I took. Then even the most critical person has to reasonably come to at least a few conclusions.

So “reasonably”

not 100%

That’s all I’m saying

[Speaker to Animals]

It kind of does follow, if the very notion of journalism is “fraud” there has to be reasons, right? You’ve talked about agendas and lies, right? Human flaw stuff, applicable to any pursuit of truth, like science and history.

You really possess no capacity for honesty.

It does not follow. This is my position. I am telling you that is NOT what I am saying. Fuck off and stop lying you little cunt.

Then tell us the reason all journalism is a fraud, you dumb bitch

I already explained my position.

I am uninterested in totally dishonest posters such as you. Nothing useful can come from playing your stupid games. You have no idea what it means to be honest.

[jediuser598]

If I know I took the picture then I know it. Everyone else has to rely on my credibility

Credibility based on evidence.

Say I'm covering a story, and not only do I upload 5 photographs that I think tell the story of the event, but I upload the other 1500 that I took. Then even the most critical person has to reasonably come to at least a few conclusions.

So “reasonably”

not 100%

That’s all I’m saying

Beyond a reasonable doubt, is that a fair standard for reporting?

[JohnDonne]

You really possess no capacity for honesty.

It does not follow. This is my position. I am telling you that is NOT what I am saying. Fuck off and stop lying you little cunt.

Then tell us the reason all journalism is a fraud, you dumb bitch

I already explained my position.

God you are a gaslighting faggot.

[JohnDonne]

Credibility based on evidence.

Say I'm covering a story, and not only do I upload 5 photographs that I think tell the story of the event, but I upload the other 1500 that I took. Then even the most critical person has to reasonably come to at least a few conclusions.

So “reasonably”

not 100%

That’s all I’m saying

Beyond a reasonable doubt, is that a fair standard for reporting?

Yes