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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by brewster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:05 am

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Again, from where? The only region with a fair replacement rate is sub-Saharan Africa.

Latin America has shit replacement too. Mexico is actually worse than the US.

Also, just assuming this pipe dream were possible, the only thing that will get you is murdered for your property, no differently than happens now in South Africa. These people are not talking out of their asses about wanting to exterminate us.
You're still talking ideology, not the actual economics of migration. People come here for opportunity, always have.
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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:09 am

brewster wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:05 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:58 am
Again, from where? The only region with a fair replacement rate is sub-Saharan Africa.

Latin America has shit replacement too. Mexico is actually worse than the US.

Also, just assuming this pipe dream were possible, the only thing that will get you is murdered for your property, no differently than happens now in South Africa. These people are not talking out of their asses about wanting to exterminate us.
You're still talking ideology, not the actual economics of migration. People come here for opportunity, always have.
No. I am pointing out the easily verifiable fact that any reasonable target for mass immigration has below replacement fertility rates just like us.

Who do you think is going to come here to fill up hundreds of millions of residences in twenty years. It is a simple question.

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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by brewster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:05 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:09 am
No. I am pointing out the easily verifiable fact that any reasonable target for mass immigration has below replacement fertility rates just like us.

Who do you think is going to come here to fill up hundreds of millions of residences in twenty years. It is a simple question.
Your obsession with fertility has you sounded like General Jack D Ripper on essential bodily fluids. Population pressure has rarely been a reason for emigration, people move for economic opportunity. Hundreds of millions of empty residences in only 20 years? Are you expecting the plague? There's only a 120 million households in the country currently! Ideology masquerading as economics is destroying this country already. Keep it in check.
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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:09 pm

brewster wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:05 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:09 am
No. I am pointing out the easily verifiable fact that any reasonable target for mass immigration has below replacement fertility rates just like us.

Who do you think is going to come here to fill up hundreds of millions of residences in twenty years. It is a simple question.
Your obsession with fertility has you sounded like General Jack D Ripper on essential bodily fluids. Population pressure has rarely been a reason for emigration, people move for economic opportunity. Hundreds of millions of empty residences in only 20 years? Are you expecting the plague? There's only a 120 million households in the country currently! Ideology masquerading as economics is destroying this country already. Keep it in check.
Do you deny most of the world is below replacement fertility??

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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by brewster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:50 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:09 pm
Do you deny most of the world is below replacement fertility??
I deny it's relevant for the current or near future appeal of immigration into this country.
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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:57 pm

brewster wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:50 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:09 pm
Do you deny most of the world is below replacement fertility??
I deny it's relevant for the current or near future appeal of immigration into this country.
It is entirely relevant. The immigrants have to exist in order to come here..

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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by brewster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:07 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:57 pm
brewster wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:50 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:09 pm
Do you deny most of the world is below replacement fertility??
I deny it's relevant for the current or near future appeal of immigration into this country.
It is entirely relevant. The immigrants have to exist in order to come here..
A slowly shrinking population does not mean the small fraction that would currently emigrate would no longer desire to do so. In fact, if their economy tanks, there's even more desire. You see things so binary, like a shrinking population suddenly means "no population".

This population argument should be a separate thread if it isn't already, but shrinking populations are a good thing in many ways for our planet and our continuing to live on it. This no doubt presents economic challenges, but many are already being solved. This country is more concerned right now with having excess labor than than a shortage.
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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:15 pm

It is not slow, Brewster. I think you just have not exposed yourself to what demographers have been saying.

Longterm.. residential property is very, very likely to become a losing investment.

Switch over to commercial or agricultural real estate for long term. There are REITS that focus on these.

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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by brewster » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:17 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:15 pm
It is not slow, Brewster. I think you just have not exposed yourself to what demographers have been saying.
So back yourself up with facts not insistence.
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Re: 543 Investment Property

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:18 pm

In particular, it is happening very fast right now. The overall population numbers are growing only because the life expectancy is growing faster than the fertility rate is dropping. But the upper end of that is projected for the 2040s-50s. That is when the pyramid begins to invert.

I am on my phone right now. You can easily find this information with a simple search. Look up demographic winter.