Social Justice Warriors Thread

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Post by jediuser598 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:01 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:51 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:49 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:45 pm
"socially liberal, fiscally conservative" is newspeak for 100% liberal.
Pfft. Good luck there. I am as far from the liberal mindset than ever before when it comes to today’s “liberal” which isn’t.

Today’s Liberal is a socialist, which I’m not.

I am a liberal in the truest definition of the word. I don’t give a fuck what you do, as long as it affects/effects you and you only.

You fuck around with other people, or me and mine, we have an issue.
You want to liberalize both personal morals and social/economic morals.

That is what it means. You are double-penetrated liberal.
True liberals believe this.

So The Conservative is a True Liberal.

:lol:

Can't make this shit up.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by pineapplemike » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:26 pm

labels can mean all sorts of things, i wouldn't get hung up on the huge overlap between conservatism and classical liberalism

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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:33 pm

Conservatives and liberals each want to liberalize one of two spheres of social life. Conservatives want to liberalize the economy. Liberals want to liberalize personal morals (degeneracy). Both sides see the huge problems inherent in the other side's liberalization schemes, but are blind to their own problems. Liberals refuse to see all the harm in abortions, homosexuality, drug abuse, etc. Conservatives fail to see the harm in the pursuit of money above all, exploitation of humans for profit, etc. They each see the problem on the other side, but not their own.

The kind of clown shoe who says he is socially liberal but fiscally conservative is the guy who wants to liberalize it all. He is just totally lost instead of partially redeemable.

Trying to convince somebody like Fife that price gouging people to death in a disaster is morally repugnant is not all that different from trying to convince a ranthony that you should not murder your own babies.

You guys are just so scripted that you have trouble seeing it as it is.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:33 pm

pineapplemike wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:26 pm
labels can mean all sorts of things, i wouldn't get hung up on the huge overlap between conservatism and classical liberalism
It's not classic liberalism, it's liberalism, period.

Those who are out there de-platforming folks, railing against freedom of speech aren't liberals.

Core tenets of liberalism:

Challenge yourself and others for intellectual soundness. Just because it is tradition doesn't make it valuable. There are no sacred things that are beyond analyzing for intellectual soundness.

Freedom of Speech. The best disinfectant is sunlight. How can you challenge yourself and others without the free exchange of ideas?

Live and let live. It's about consent. As long as you're not hurting other people, I don't care what you do in the privacy of your own home.

That's core liberalism. If you don't believe in that you can't be liberal. If you do believe in all of these, then perhaps you're more liberal than you think. (this is not an exhaustive list, I just can't think of any others atm.)
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Fife » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:39 pm

So we agree: Neither you nor I have any right, whatsoever, to know anything whatsoever about Martin's income or wealth (or any other American's income or wealth) without sufficient notice and due process of law based upon reasonable suspicion of some legitimate crime?

Thanks for that admission; you're not so bad after all.

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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:45 pm

Fife wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:39 pm
So we agree: Neither you nor I have any right, whatsoever, to know anything whatsoever about Martin's income or wealth (or any other American's income or wealth) without sufficient notice and due process of law based upon reasonable suspicion of some legitimate crime?

Thanks for that admission; you're not so bad after all.
Who, me?

It's a complex question, are you lobbying members of congress to create loopholes so you can avoid paying taxes that you should in fact pay, but you're not because you have enough money to create legislation through corruption?
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Fife » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:51 pm

Yeah, so much for "live and let live."

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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:53 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:45 pm
Fife wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:39 pm
So we agree: Neither you nor I have any right, whatsoever, to know anything whatsoever about Martin's income or wealth (or any other American's income or wealth) without sufficient notice and due process of law based upon reasonable suspicion of some legitimate crime?

Thanks for that admission; you're not so bad after all.
Who, me?

It's a complex question, are you lobbying members of congress to create loopholes so you can avoid paying taxes that you should in fact pay, but you're not because you have enough money to create legislation through corruption?
Martin is literally an "eat the rich" guy. He wants to tax the shit out of his peers. I am not sure where you coming from here, but I think you might have the wrong target..

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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by jediuser598 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:58 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:53 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:45 pm
Fife wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:39 pm
So we agree: Neither you nor I have any right, whatsoever, to know anything whatsoever about Martin's income or wealth (or any other American's income or wealth) without sufficient notice and due process of law based upon reasonable suspicion of some legitimate crime?

Thanks for that admission; you're not so bad after all.
Who, me?

It's a complex question, are you lobbying members of congress to create loopholes so you can avoid paying taxes that you should in fact pay, but you're not because you have enough money to create legislation through corruption?
Martin is literally an "eat the rich" guy. He wants to tax the shit out of his peers. I am not sure where you coming from here, but I think you might have the wrong target..
I'm targeting Fife?

I didn't say anything about Martin.
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Re: Social Justice Warriors Thread

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:00 pm

Fife is just the Ranthony of money.