Roger Stone is the shiny object. The obstruction charges in his long-anticipated indictment, made public on Friday, are not the matter of consequence for the United States.
Nor is the critical thing the indictment’s implicit confirmation that there was no criminal “collusion” conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia.
What matters is this: The indictment is just the latest blatant demonstration that Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office, the Department of Justice, and the FBI have known for many months that there was no such conspiracy. And yet, fully aware that the Obama administration, the Justice Department, and the FBI had assiduously crafted a public narrative that Trump may have been in cahoots with the Russian regime, they have allowed that cloud of suspicion to hover over the presidency — over the Trump administration’s efforts to govern — heedless of the damage to the country.
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The Stone indictment reads like an episode of The Three Stooges. Stone and two associates — conservative writer and conspiracy theorist Jerry Corsi, and left-wing-comedian-turned-radio-host Randy Credico, respectively denominated “Person 1” and “Person 2” — are on a quest to find out what WikiLeaks has on Hillary Clinton and when Assange is going to publicize it. But that does not suit Stone, who has cultivated an image of political dirty trickster and plugged-in soothsayer. In public, then, Stone pretends to know more than he knows and to have an insider’s view of Assange’s operation; behind the scenes, he scrounges around for clues about what Assange is up to, hoping some insider will tell him.
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NRO: Stone Indictment Underscores That There Was No Trump-Russia Conspiracy
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Do you know what a red card is? (outside of soccer/international football)SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:09 amYou mean a pre-planned assault on a domestic home was better planned than the response to a surprise attack on an embassy halfway across the globe? Yeah, better think about that.Fife wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:49 amAlso consider the SWAT type raid they used to arrest Stone at 6AM, in addition to the fact that it was a staged event for the use and benefit of CNN.
Did they believe Roger was going to come out with his 870 blasting away?
The state is just getting warmed up on blowing smoke straight up your ass.
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Do tell.The Conservative wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:56 pmDo you know what a red card is? (outside of soccer/international football)SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:09 amYou mean a pre-planned assault on a domestic home was better planned than the response to a surprise attack on an embassy halfway across the globe? Yeah, better think about that.Fife wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:49 amAlso consider the SWAT type raid they used to arrest Stone at 6AM, in addition to the fact that it was a staged event for the use and benefit of CNN.
Did they believe Roger was going to come out with his 870 blasting away?
The state is just getting warmed up on blowing smoke straight up your ass.
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Roger Stone is just a Native American Elder Vietnam War Veteran who was in the middle of a spirit dance for world peace when a gang of armed white men raided his home and dragged him off the reservation for daring to speak truth to power.
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It’s given to US citizens that are important to companies, etc. government officials have them as well.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:16 pmDo tell.The Conservative wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:56 pmDo you know what a red card is? (outside of soccer/international football)SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:09 am
You mean a pre-planned assault on a domestic home was better planned than the response to a surprise attack on an embassy halfway across the globe? Yeah, better think about that.
It is a direct like to the closest US base/embassy that can get your ass out of trouble.
Depending on the situation there, you either get a helicopter full of marines, or something a lot more violent to clear out the issue.
The surprise attack on the embassy wasn’t... there were requests to beef up security that went ignored. This never would have happened if Hillary Clinton wasn’t giving military grade nuclear material to the Russians for money to be deposited into the Clinton Foubdation and did her job instead.
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Obama ordered the team to stand down while they were about to head out and fight.
The only guns brought to bear that were not already at the consulate were American mercs who stopped what they were doing and fought the terrorists (Obama presumably couldn't order them to do shit).
The only guns brought to bear that were not already at the consulate were American mercs who stopped what they were doing and fought the terrorists (Obama presumably couldn't order them to do shit).
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I know, I lost a friend in that attack, just drives me nuts when I see people tell me that everything was tried...Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:52 pmObama ordered the team to stand down while they were about to head out and fight.
The only guns brought to bear that were not already at the consulate were American mercs who stopped what they were doing and fought the terrorists (Obama presumably couldn't order them to do shit).
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So you blame the SECSTATE personally for this, because she was distracted?The Conservative wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:50 pmIt’s given to US citizens that are important to companies, etc. government officials have them as well.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:16 pmDo tell.The Conservative wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:56 pm
Do you know what a red card is? (outside of soccer/international football)
It is a direct like to the closest US base/embassy that can get your ass out of trouble.
Depending on the situation there, you either get a helicopter full of marines, or something a lot more violent to clear out the issue.
The surprise attack on the embassy wasn’t... there were requests to beef up security that went ignored. This never would have happened if Hillary Clinton wasn’t giving military grade nuclear material to the Russians for money to be deposited into the Clinton Foubdation and did her job instead.
If protocol wasn't followed, then I'm sure that the military has any number of reports explaining why. All I've seen so far is a bunch of talking heads screaming about conspiracy theories. Isn't it more likely that the government simply got caught with its pants down?
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Was that before or after they blamed the video?SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:11 pmSo you blame the SECSTATE personally for this, because she was distracted?The Conservative wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:50 pmIt’s given to US citizens that are important to companies, etc. government officials have them as well.
It is a direct like to the closest US base/embassy that can get your ass out of trouble.
Depending on the situation there, you either get a helicopter full of marines, or something a lot more violent to clear out the issue.
The surprise attack on the embassy wasn’t... there were requests to beef up security that went ignored. This never would have happened if Hillary Clinton wasn’t giving military grade nuclear material to the Russians for money to be deposited into the Clinton Foubdation and did her job instead.
If protocol wasn't followed, then I'm sure that the military has any number of reports explaining why. All I've seen so far is a bunch of talking heads screaming about conspiracy theories. Isn't it more likely that the government simply got caught with its pants down?
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No, because if what you stated to be true, such as “getting caught with their pants down” not only would it have made front page news, but it would have been a convenient scapegoat.SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:11 pmSo you blame the SECSTATE personally for this, because she was distracted?The Conservative wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:50 pmIt’s given to US citizens that are important to companies, etc. government officials have them as well.
It is a direct like to the closest US base/embassy that can get your ass out of trouble.
Depending on the situation there, you either get a helicopter full of marines, or something a lot more violent to clear out the issue.
The surprise attack on the embassy wasn’t... there were requests to beef up security that went ignored. This never would have happened if Hillary Clinton wasn’t giving military grade nuclear material to the Russians for money to be deposited into the Clinton Foubdation and did her job instead.
If protocol wasn't followed, then I'm sure that the military has any number of reports explaining why. All I've seen so far is a bunch of talking heads screaming about conspiracy theories. Isn't it more likely that the government simply got caught with its pants down?
And, be very careful here, because there is more proof that the ball wasn’t dropped, and people were told not only to stand down, but requests were ignored.
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