Trump and Giuliani threaten Cohen’s family? Thoughts?

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Must just be muh NPC programming. If only I were pilled enough to divine the stability and genius lurking somewheres amongst the catch phrases and digressions... but, you know us NPCs, I won't believe it 'till the horns of judgement sound, or Rachel Maddow tells me otherwise.

Right on Bro
I don't disrespect your opinion. I just wanted to know if there was any evidence of these claims I keep hearing all the time. I have crazy opinions without proof as well.

The evidence I usually use to determine if someone is a moron is how they express themselves, and the complexity of the things they are trying to express. Everything Trump tries to express is very simple (which isn't to say wrong), and the way he expresses it is idiotic.

For example, I have mentioned the Steve Bannon, David Frum debate on this forum before. Bannon is supporting much of Trumps agenda, but he is obviously not a moron, because he actually understands the agenda and can describe it in complete sentences, and isn't simply regurgitating the same three or four word catch phrases.

[C-Mag]

Dude, imma throw you a bone here because you need the help.

Consider the possibility that you’re on the right track, but for the completely wrong reason. Perhaps Cohen *is* afraid for his family, but it has absolutely nothing to do with this dumbass tweet you’re clinging to. Maybe the tweet is the only thing Cohen can desperately point to, because all actual evidence is so shady and twisted nobody can afford for it to come to light.

I'll double down with that and go Russian Collusion Conspiracy on ya.

Cohen's father in law(Fima Shustermann, born in the Ukraine) is the Russian Mafia chairman for New York, Trump went Fima and got Mafia loans for his business, couldn't pay them back, now Trump owes the Russian Mafia, and when Trump ran for POTUS, Putin bought up the loans from the Russian Mafia, and Trump is just Putin's puppet now. Further, Melania is actually a Red Sparrow, trained by Putin when she was young in Communist Slovakia. It was her job to direct Trump to Fima Shusterman.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

I can't tell ya'll how comforting it is to see the entire board come around to my 'cui bono is bullshit reasoning' way of thinking.

[JohnDonne]

Weird how trump got exactly what he wanted, which is for Cohen not to testify in front of the newly democrat empowered congress, and you’ve got the guy who was supposed to testify telling you that Trump is the reason he won’t do it. You’ve got tweets of trump referencing his family repeatedly, and without any relevance to cohens testimony, suggesting that his family is in danger of going down for undisclosed crimes, and Cohen pointing to those remarks as the reason he won’t testify. Yet you think it’s more likely that the Weasley Cohen would rather go to jail for a long time without any plausible motive.

Yep, I’m sure Trump is just extremely lucky and had no hand in this.

Dude, imma throw you a bone here because you need the help.

Consider the possibility that you’re on the right track, but for the completely wrong reason. Perhaps Cohen *is* afraid for his family, but it has absolutely nothing to do with this dumbass tweet you’re clinging to. Maybe the tweet is the only thing Cohen can desperately point to, because all actual evidence is so shady and twisted nobody can afford for it to come to light.

I thought of something like that, but I’m also not discounting the ominous nature of tweeting about someone’s family and how they might have criminal secrets right before the person testifies. That is is big deal and any normal person would rightfully be in trouble for doing that.

[DBTrek]

You should come on over to the side of family, honesty, and American pride, HM, if you’re in to articulate thought.

Dump the party of simple-minded slogans - Black lives matter, power+privilege, feminism is the future, #resist, I’m with her, etc,etc.

Jeez, could you find a larger collection of easily-led simpletons than progressive democrats?

I know, I know - MAGA

It’s not the use of the tactic, it’s the prevalence of it. Both sides use it, one completely relies on it to carry their agenda forward.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

You should come on over to the side of righteousness, HM, if you’re in to articulate thought.
Dump the party of simple-minded slogans - Black lives matter, power+privilege, feminism is the future, #resist, I’m with her, etc,etc.

Jeez, could you find a larger collection of easily-led simpletons than progressive democrats?

I know, I know - MAGA

It’s not the use of the tactic, it’s the prevalence of it. Both sides use it, one completely relies on it to carry their agenda forward.

I've already said I consider myself a classical conservative. Or, as I have seen it disparagingly phrased elsewhere around here, a "Chesterton fanboy."

Trump shares very few of my values, I am not going to pretend to like him just because progressives are dumbasses, and he makes them mad.

[C-Mag]

The evidence I usually use to determine if someone is a moron is how they express themselves, and the complexity of the things they are trying to express. Everything Trump tries to express is very simple (which isn't to say wrong), and the way he expresses it is idiotic.

For example, I have mentioned the Steve Bannon, David Frum debate on this forum before. Bannon is supporting much of Trumps agenda, but he is obviously not a moron, because he actually understands the agenda and can describe it in complete sentences, and isn't simply regurgitating the same three or four word catch phrases.

Yeah, nothing wrong with that. AOC and Palin are judged the same way. Trump is definitely not a Cunning-linguist

Bannon is very good at presenting the Economic Nationalist Platform.

Not many illusions with Trump. He is what he is. I'll go back to this, the Illusion is the polished politician, not Trump. There's this cry to look at Trumps tax returns, cuz the Bushes and Clintons always show their tax returns. And I say ,well those cats in the establishment have known for decades that if you are going to be in public office your tax returns should reflect a positive view. But the average person with no intention of being in public office may have things that they would rather keep private.

Trump loves to talk of the cuff, hates the teleprompter and is flat and pretty awful when using it. Frankly, I would love to ban the teleprompter from all politicians. Let's pull back the curtain on these bastards and see how smart any of them sound.

[DBTrek]

Dude, imma throw you a bone here because you need the help.

Consider the possibility that you’re on the right track, but for the completely wrong reason. Perhaps Cohen *is* afraid for his family, but it has absolutely nothing to do with this dumbass tweet you’re clinging to. Maybe the tweet is the only thing Cohen can desperately point to, because all actual evidence is so shady and twisted nobody can afford for it to come to light.

I'll double down with that and go Russian Collusion Conspiracy on ya.

Cohen's father in law(Fima Shustermann, born in the Ukraine) is the Russian Mafia chairman for New York, Trump went Fima and got Mafia loans for his business, couldn't pay them back, now Trump owes the Russian Mafia, and when Trump ran for POTUS, Putin bought up the loans from the Russian Mafia, and Trump is just Putin's puppet now. Further, Melania is actually a Red Sparrow, trained by Putin when she was young in Communist Slovakia. It was her job to direct Trump to Fima Shusterman.

There you go. I mean, it’s outlandish, but not as outlandish as Cohen being terrified over “watch the father-in-law”.

The first part of your theory is fire though, Russian Mafia debt. They should build on that shit. And if they were smart, they would.

But they’re not. They’re dumb as the hind quarters of a jellyfish, so they try to panick everyone over tweets that mean nothing to folks on the right 2/3rds of the IQ bell curve.

[C-Mag]

I can't tell ya'll how comforting it is to see the entire board come around to my 'cui bono is bullshit reasoning' way of thinking.

We saw your bat signal, saw you flying the colors upside down, saw you calling for a life line...…………….. always willing to lend a helping hand to a DCF Times Veteran.

[C-Mag]

There you go. I mean, it’s outlandish, but not as outlandish as Cohen being terrified over “watch the father-in-law”.

The first part of your theory is fire though, Russian Mafia debt. They should build on that shit. And if they were smart, they would.

But they’re not. They’re dumb as the hind quarters of a jellyfish, so they try to panick everyone over tweets that mean nothing to folks on the right 2/3rds of the IQ bell curve.

Fuck dude, it was simple, I brewed that shit up from 15 min of googling Cohen's daddy in law and a logic walk through.

The press are fucking talking heads idiots; but theyz got Ivy League petigrees an talks real purty.