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Re: Socialism

Post by Fife » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 am

Grammar Nazis are Nazis

Campus Reform: Writing prof: Grading based on quality is racist
American University in Washington, D.C. is hosting an event on Feb. 1 on "antiracist" grading with a professor who serves as director of a writing center which argues that American grammar is a "racist," "unjust language structure."

The seminar, titled, "Grading Ain't Just Grading: Rethinking Writing Assessment Ecologies Towards Antiracist Ends," will be led by University of Washington-Tacoma professor Asao Inoue, who previously published an essay titled, "A Grade-less Writing Course that Focuses on Labor and Assessing," in which he argues in favor of "dispens[ing] almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades."

"I argue that a productive way to design and teach a first-year writing course is to conceive of it as labor – and calculate course grades by labor completed – and dispense almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades," Inoue writes in an essay summary on Academia.edu.
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“We promise to emphasize the importance of rhetorical situations over grammatical ‘correctness’ in the production of texts,” the poster continues. “We promise to challenge conventional word choices and writing explanations.”

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Re: Socialism

Post by Zlaxer » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:24 am

Fife wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 am
Grammar Nazis are Nazis

Campus Reform: Writing prof: Grading based on quality is racist
American University in Washington, D.C. is hosting an event on Feb. 1 on "antiracist" grading with a professor who serves as director of a writing center which argues that American grammar is a "racist," "unjust language structure."

The seminar, titled, "Grading Ain't Just Grading: Rethinking Writing Assessment Ecologies Towards Antiracist Ends," will be led by University of Washington-Tacoma professor Asao Inoue, who previously published an essay titled, "A Grade-less Writing Course that Focuses on Labor and Assessing," in which he argues in favor of "dispens[ing] almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades."

"I argue that a productive way to design and teach a first-year writing course is to conceive of it as labor – and calculate course grades by labor completed – and dispense almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades," Inoue writes in an essay summary on Academia.edu.
. . .

“We promise to emphasize the importance of rhetorical situations over grammatical ‘correctness’ in the production of texts,” the poster continues. “We promise to challenge conventional word choices and writing explanations.”
There is no end to this....is there....This is the world we live in....quietly into the night we go.....

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Re: Socialism

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:33 am

Fife wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 am
Grammar Nazis are Nazis

Campus Reform: Writing prof: Grading based on quality is racist
American University in Washington, D.C. is hosting an event on Feb. 1 on "antiracist" grading with a professor who serves as director of a writing center which argues that American grammar is a "racist," "unjust language structure."

The seminar, titled, "Grading Ain't Just Grading: Rethinking Writing Assessment Ecologies Towards Antiracist Ends," will be led by University of Washington-Tacoma professor Asao Inoue, who previously published an essay titled, "A Grade-less Writing Course that Focuses on Labor and Assessing," in which he argues in favor of "dispens[ing] almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades."

"I argue that a productive way to design and teach a first-year writing course is to conceive of it as labor – and calculate course grades by labor completed – and dispense almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades," Inoue writes in an essay summary on Academia.edu.
. . .

“We promise to emphasize the importance of rhetorical situations over grammatical ‘correctness’ in the production of texts,” the poster continues. “We promise to challenge conventional word choices and writing explanations.”
... at first blush, I was horrified. But then, what if this is the answer to ‘no child left behind’?

Instead of forcing idiots to fail, and sit in 12th grade forever, what if we simply said “good try”, and dumped them out of the system?

Now that a high school diploma is practically worthless, why bother forcing it to any standard? Just leave it as a ‘mark of effort’. We already judge workers on college degrees anyway.
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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:49 am

College degrees are worthless for most jobs too.

If it's for not engineering, medicine, science, or an actual academic career, then it's fucking worthless.

The vast majority of office, IT, service and service management jobs, etc., warrant no college degree. Not really. What we are calling "professions" are just trades or clerical work. That's not professional in a strict sense, because we all know you can take pretty much anybody off the street and train them to do those jobs at the workplace itself. They are more closely aligned with trades, but trades at least really do require trade schooling to some extent, depending upon the trade.

Maybe IT should be considered a trade, and all IT/IS/grunt programming work should only require maybe a two year degree. It's not legitimate engineering and shouldn't require almost as much time spent in college to do those jobs.

I never understood the fucking point of people going to college to work in IT. You might as well get a real computer science degree and work as a software engineer if you already have to go to college for 4-6 years. Software engineering pays more and you do actually challenging work. It's not just going to work everyday to keep some network running or update scripts on the order servers. Those are tedious jobs and you shouldn't have to also submit to four plus years at some Marxist-infested university to do that kind of work.

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Re: Socialism

Post by BjornP » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:07 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:29 am
BjornP wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:48 am
TC, since this is not the first time you've used this word, do me the small favor and look up "reactionary" in a dictionary. Hint: It doesn't mean "reacting to something".
And do me a small favor and ignore the misuse of the word, because if you can't figure out what I am saying then you need to stop being a Grammar/Spelling Nazi.
I am trying to help you, dumbass. There was no grammar or spelling Nazi element to my post, since I was neither correcting your grammar og spelling. I know what you were trying to say, that's how I understood that you were using the wrong word. StA provided the word you certainly meant to use. In this case, it was easy to see that you were using "reactionary" in a wrong way, but in other contexts you misusing the word might lead to your words being misunderstood even on this forum. No reason for you to be misunderstood in the future.
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Re: Socialism

Post by BjornP » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:09 pm

Fife wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 am
Grammar Nazis are Nazis

Campus Reform: Writing prof: Grading based on quality is racist
American University in Washington, D.C. is hosting an event on Feb. 1 on "antiracist" grading with a professor who serves as director of a writing center which argues that American grammar is a "racist," "unjust language structure."

The seminar, titled, "Grading Ain't Just Grading: Rethinking Writing Assessment Ecologies Towards Antiracist Ends," will be led by University of Washington-Tacoma professor Asao Inoue, who previously published an essay titled, "A Grade-less Writing Course that Focuses on Labor and Assessing," in which he argues in favor of "dispens[ing] almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades."

"I argue that a productive way to design and teach a first-year writing course is to conceive of it as labor – and calculate course grades by labor completed – and dispense almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades," Inoue writes in an essay summary on Academia.edu.
. . .

“We promise to emphasize the importance of rhetorical situations over grammatical ‘correctness’ in the production of texts,” the poster continues. “We promise to challenge conventional word choices and writing explanations.”
:|

Sounds like the prelude to an Idiocracy-like future society.
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Re: Socialism

Post by DBTrek » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:10 pm

Dude ... how are you letting this Danish dude school you on the language?
Goddamnit.

Just let it go. Bjorn made his point, further argument is just going to highlight the embarrassment. Everyone fucks up a word now and then, it's not a hill to die on, just move on and no one will even remember in day.
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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:36 pm

Fun fact: Even though Denmark was officially neutral, it was when the Danish ambassador corrected Adolf Hitler's mistaken usage of the unwieldy future tense in the German language that Hitler immediately ordered an invasion of Denmark.

"It's not future tense now. Are you happy?"

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Re: Socialism

Post by BjornP » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:54 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:36 pm
Fun fact: Even though Denmark was officially neutral, it was when the Danish ambassador corrected Adolf Hitler's mistaken usage of the unwieldy future tense in the German language that Hitler immediately ordered an invasion of Denmark.
German would be so much simpler if they just had Danish grammar. Might make me want to re-learn the language. Russian grammar has six cases, btw. Surely explains the invasion of the USSR. A provocatively large amount of grammatic cases. We could all avoid having to wonder if it's Der Reich, Die Reich or Das Reich, if Adolf's war for Grammatical Simplicity had succeeded. :ugeek:
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Re: Socialism

Post by clubgop » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:31 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:24 am
Fife wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:46 am
Grammar Nazis are Nazis

Campus Reform: Writing prof: Grading based on quality is racist
American University in Washington, D.C. is hosting an event on Feb. 1 on "antiracist" grading with a professor who serves as director of a writing center which argues that American grammar is a "racist," "unjust language structure."

The seminar, titled, "Grading Ain't Just Grading: Rethinking Writing Assessment Ecologies Towards Antiracist Ends," will be led by University of Washington-Tacoma professor Asao Inoue, who previously published an essay titled, "A Grade-less Writing Course that Focuses on Labor and Assessing," in which he argues in favor of "dispens[ing] almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades."

"I argue that a productive way to design and teach a first-year writing course is to conceive of it as labor – and calculate course grades by labor completed – and dispense almost completely with judgments of quality when producing course grades," Inoue writes in an essay summary on Academia.edu.
. . .

“We promise to emphasize the importance of rhetorical situations over grammatical ‘correctness’ in the production of texts,” the poster continues. “We promise to challenge conventional word choices and writing explanations.”
There is no end to this....is there....This is the world we live in....quietly into the night we go.....
As a first year writing course I get it. Get them to write and write and write a lot, let them build up a voluminous amount of writing and in future assignments and writing classes let them punch up that same language, edit and revise to purpose. I think throughout college I wrote like 10 original papers, the rest was just a hodgepodge if not a straight rewrite of a previous paper.