DBTrek wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:02 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:56 am
I didn’t have you picked out as an advocate for Big State Certification.. also, not sure what kind of “achievement” it is to opt into 4 years of irrelevant, expensive schooling vs 2, but regardless....
Consider a kid that went to extra school vs working in The IT field for 2 years. Who’s more valuable to your company?
Techs have a different answer from corporates. Which one do you believe?
I also shouldn't be surprised that the AS-degree folks think certs are awarded by "Big State".
So in summation:
1) Our "self-taught" geniuses were actually taught by community colleges, not themselves - but they're still ok pissing on everyone elses educations.
2) They don't know that most IT certifications are industry-based, not government based.
3) They know the value of having credentials that pass through HR filters, but can't connect this knowledge in any meaningful way with the certifications that provide those credentials.
Look at when the certifications come from, Microsoft, Cisco, google, you name it it’s out there. Who makes money off of those certifications? It’s not the people taking the certifications I could tell you that, yes it might increase your pay by a few thousand dollars but in reality you are wasting your time getting the certifications to prove he could do a job you’ve already been doing for how long?
Certifications are like Karen Sherance you Gotta have it, you got to pay for it.
Certifications only show that you could pass a test, that’s it it’s a simple as that. I would rather have somebody who has 20 years in the IT world or five years programming; then have to worry about if somebody somewhere has a certification.
I had my A+, MCSC, as well as many other certifications know what good they did me?
Squat.
My pay went from $50,000, to $75,000 all because the H1B visa people were dropping the rate of what I should’ve gotten.
Too many certifications are nothing but prove he can be coaching team, you can say whatever you want but anybody who looks for certifications is not looking for people who are qualified all day looking for is a piece of paper, and personally a piece of paper is worth shit comparison to experience.