The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

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Post by heydaralon » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:21 pm

My favorite plane from that war is the P-38. I think it is a beautiful awesome fucking plane. Rightnow, I really like the cut of the A-10 Warthog's gib! People say that plane is ugly. Fuck that, and fuck off. It is an amazing machine and looks based as fuck!
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Post by C-Mag » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:30 pm

P 38 had a very good performance record throughout the war, despite being a very early design like the B 17
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:37 pm

My old squadron flew the P-47 Thunderbolt during that war.

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Post by C-Mag » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:54 pm

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My old squadron flew the P-47 Thunderbolt during that war.
Extremely underrated plane. P-51 stole all the glory. I love Jugs.
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Post by C-Mag » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:56 pm

The T-34 is the victim of Soviet and German wartime propaganda. The Russians had every reason to build it up as the best tank of WWII. The Germans also overstated its performance in order to explain their defeats.

If the T-34 was as good as propaganda made it out to be then it should have led to great Soviet victories in 1941-42. Instead what we see in that period is the poor performance of Soviet armored formations. In 1943-45 the T-34 was becoming outdated as the Germans used updated versions of the Pz IV and Stug III equipped with the powerful Kwk 40 75mm gun and of course they introduced the Tiger and Panther.

The ‘best tank of WWII’ suffered horrific losses against those tanks and even the updated version T-34/85 could not bridge the gap. According to a Soviet report (29) in the period summer 1943 - March 1945 the probability of the T-34’s armor being penetrated if hit was from 88-97%, thus any round that managed to hit the tank was practically certain to penetrate the armor.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:13 pm

C-Mag wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:54 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:37 pm
My old squadron flew the P-47 Thunderbolt during that war.
Extremely underrated plane. P-51 stole all the glory. I love Jugs.
Saw a P51 fly over at the Cleveland air show a few years ago. You can actually hear how overpowered that thing is, just in the way the engine runs.
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Post by Montegriffo » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:22 pm

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Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:59 am
heydaralon wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:45 am
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I suspect jet engines were overrated at the time.

A jet is going to fly considerably faster than most prop planes running the reciprocating engines of the day. The only way that is going to be effective against those prop planes is with really good missiles and targeting systems. But they did not really have that as far as I know. From my understanding, jets on all sides (we had some too) would just zip past everybody and not contribute all that much to the fight.

At the time, the real goal likely was just to get jet bombers loaded so you could strike deep into enemy territory without being intercepted.
Huh, I didn't know Jet Engines were used at all during WW2. Some of the stuff that nazi scientists were trying out is pretty wild man.

Everybody had them, dude. Americans. British. Germans.

First flight, 1944:

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Frist flight, 1943:

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The Gloster Meteor was the only Allied jet plane to achieve combat operations during the war though.
Only one still airworthy.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:24 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:22 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:59 am
heydaralon wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:45 am


Huh, I didn't know Jet Engines were used at all during WW2. Some of the stuff that nazi scientists were trying out is pretty wild man.

Everybody had them, dude. Americans. British. Germans.

First flight, 1944:

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Frist flight, 1943:

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The Gloster Meteor was the only Allied jet plane to achieve combat operations during the war though.
Yeah, it shot down V1 rockets. It was awesome.

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Post by Montegriffo » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:30 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:24 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:22 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:59 am



Everybody had them, dude. Americans. British. Germans.

First flight, 1944:

Image


Frist flight, 1943:

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The Gloster Meteor was the only Allied jet plane to achieve combat operations during the war though.
Yeah, it shot down V1 rockets. It was awesome.
Did it actually shoot them down or tip them like Spitfires did?
I thought they were too dangerous to shoot as you would fly into the explosion and damage your plane.
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Re: The Armory - Guns, Knives, and Axes

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:55 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:30 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:24 pm
Montegriffo wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:22 pm


The Gloster Meteor was the only Allied jet plane to achieve combat operations during the war though.
Yeah, it shot down V1 rockets. It was awesome.
Did it actually shoot them down or tip them like Spitfires did?
I thought they were too dangerous to shoot as you would fly into the explosion and damage your plane.
I dunno. He might have had to tip it nose down with his wing