If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by jediuser598 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:55 am
jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:51 am


Jedi,

Why do you think they have a right to immigrant here? It's true that Europeans came in the 1880s, but the economy was vastly different, and the socials nets not nearly as extensive...and did not south/central americans have the same opportunity in the 1880's ...why is it wrong for America to close it's doors? especially in light of the social programs...
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by Martin Hash » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:51 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:37 am
Highway Noise Barriers Cost $6 Billion
I don't support that.

I have a highway near my house, it sounds like a river from 5am til 2am.

Deal with it, part of living where I do. I don't support wasting that much taxpayer money just to not even fix an issue.

There we go Martin, we just saved the government $11 billion dollars.
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by jediuser598 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:51 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:37 am
Highway Noise Barriers Cost $6 Billion
I don't support that.

I have a highway near my house, it sounds like a river from 5am til 2am.

Deal with it, part of living where I do. I don't support wasting that much taxpayer money just to not even fix an issue.

There we go Martin, we just saved the government $11 billion dollars.
You don't get to decide. That's why we're having a government shutdown, so it gets decided.
48.2% of voters wanted Hillary Clinton didn't they?

65,853,514

And that's worth getting stuck with Trump. (Although Hillary isn't a better choice anyways.)

On the low, how much could I get for 65 million voters?
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:55 am
jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:51 am


Jedi,

Why do you think they have a right to immigrant here? It's true that Europeans came in the 1880s, but the economy was vastly different, and the socials nets not nearly as extensive...and did not south/central americans have the same opportunity in the 1880's ...why is it wrong for America to close it's doors? especially in light of the social programs...

You don't want to make a serious response?

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by jediuser598 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:10 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:55 am




Jedi,

Why do you think they have a right to immigrant here? It's true that Europeans came in the 1880s, but the economy was vastly different, and the socials nets not nearly as extensive...and did not south/central americans have the same opportunity in the 1880's ...why is it wrong for America to close it's doors? especially in light of the social programs...

You don't want to make a serious response?
I did make a serious response, if you'd have read the thread you'd understand why my comment is relevant.

Your hair lord made a promise to get 5-10 billion dollars to pay for the wall.

Then your hair lord says he never made that promise.

The promise is still up on his fucking website:
It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-
10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year
after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall
including the following:
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

Get the fuck out of here, you're the one not being serious.
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by pineapplemike » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:11 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:45 am
Martin Hash wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:34 am
How is this a money issue? Somebody explain how $5 billion for what 32% of the people demand is too expensive? Hell, if 100 million people want something, that's worth $trillions. (Think Seniors.)
I don't see what the problem is, the guy said the American Taxpayer didn't have to pick up the check and is now keeping the government shutdown because people are holding him to his promise?

This was on his website:
The provision of the Patriot Act, Section 326 -the "know your
customer" provision, compelling financial institutions to demand identity
documents before opening accounts or conducting financial transactions is a
fundamental element of the outline below. That section authorized the
executive branch to issue detailed regulations on the subject, found at 31 CFR
130.120-121. It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-
10 billion
to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year
after year.
https://web.archive.org/web/20161105192 ... e_Wall.pdf

There you go, get your 5-10 billion and pay for your wall.

And look man, maybe the new trade deal will get America tons of money, we need to pay down existing debt not get more, we don't need to spend more.

Fiscal conservatism (c).
from your link, it appears that mexico not paying directly for the wall and rather paying indirectly was already part of the plan
On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds needed to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.
hammering trump on the mexico will pay for it line is reasonably legitimate but not really, i feel like you have to cede him some ground for making up the spending difference with his aggressive trade deals
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:12 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:10 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:02 pm



You don't want to make a serious response?
I did make a serious response, if you'd have read the thread you'd understand why my comment is relevant.

Your hair lord made a promise to get 5-10 billion dollars to pay for the wall.

Then your hair lord says he never made that promise.

The promise is still up on his fucking website:
It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-
10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year
after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall
including the following:
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

Get the fuck out of here, you're the one not being serious.

I'm asking why you are pro-immigration....not about the fucking wall...

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by jediuser598 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:19 pm

Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:12 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:10 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:06 pm



You don't want to make a serious response?
I did make a serious response, if you'd have read the thread you'd understand why my comment is relevant.

Your hair lord made a promise to get 5-10 billion dollars to pay for the wall.

Then your hair lord says he never made that promise.

The promise is still up on his fucking website:
It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-
10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year
after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall
including the following:
https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

Get the fuck out of here, you're the one not being serious.

I'm asking why you are pro-immigration....not about the fucking wall...
The title of the thread:
If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?
The thread is about "the fucking wall."

You can certainly post anything you like, but I'm not committing a faux pas by trying to talk about the wall in a thread explicitly about the wall.
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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by Zlaxer » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:25 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:19 pm
Zlaxer wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:12 pm
jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:10 pm


I did make a serious response, if you'd have read the thread you'd understand why my comment is relevant.

Your hair lord made a promise to get 5-10 billion dollars to pay for the wall.

Then your hair lord says he never made that promise.

The promise is still up on his fucking website:


https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

Get the fuck out of here, you're the one not being serious.

I'm asking why you are pro-immigration....not about the fucking wall...
The title of the thread:
If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?
The thread is about "the fucking wall."

You can certainly post anything you like, but I'm not committing a faux pas by trying to talk about the wall in a thread explicitly about the wall.

Vapid.

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:26 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:19 pm

The title of the thread:
' I don't think the US should enforce borders, so here is a distraction'
I paraphrase ;) :P
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