If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:22 pm

Trump just did a new NAFTA. Trump's America is going to make WAY MORE than what The Wall costs from that; for example, Ford just announced it was NOT going to open its new factory in Mexico but instead in the U.S. The fucking Dems are keeping Trump's NAFTA money that he got from Mexico.
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Post by Zlaxer » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:24 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -made.html

Hair God Emperor wrote:I am considering declaring a national emergency to allow POTUS to build the wall without legislative approval...also, I am disbanding the House and Senate

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:57 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:22 pm
Trump just did a new NAFTA. Trump's America is going to make WAY MORE than what The Wall costs from that; for example, Ford just announced it was NOT going to open its new factory in Mexico but instead in the U.S. The fucking Dems are keeping Trump's NAFTA money that he got from Mexico.

That is a very good point.

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Re: If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

Post by clubgop » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:10 pm

I think the wall is better as an Idea as a symbol or monument to actually commit to border and immigration security moreso than its actual real life effect. The wall is a huge commitment to expend that much political capital and real capital to only have to turn it over to democrats who will undermine it if not outright destroy it will be a real political killer. They have to be broken like Edgar Allen Poe's Tell-Tale Heart make them build the wall to cover their crime and a vain attempt to preserve their sanity.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:22 pm

It is really not that big an expense in a relative sense. Democrats had no problem literally dumping 150 billion on Iran. Syria is about as much. Libya. Iraq. Afghanistan.

These deep state, neoliberal cunts drop more cash on lots of stupid shit all the time. They oppose the wall because (1) they are committed to open borders and (2) they know a wall can be extremely effective in reducing illegal immigration.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:24 pm

I'd make a deal plainly: public option (expanded Medicare) for a wall. If the non-establishment types taking over the democratic party are more committed to social welfare than to white genocide, then they should make that deal.

Make an offer that divides the democrats and helps isolate the deep state folks infecting the party.

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Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:59 pm

Stupid plebs.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:01 pm

Medicare for all in exchange for a wall.

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Post by jediuser598 » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:27 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:01 pm
Medicare for all in exchange for a wall.
I'd make that deal, if it we're between you and I.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:28 pm

jediuser598 wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:27 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:01 pm
Medicare for all in exchange for a wall.
I'd make that deal, if it we're between you and I.
The question you need to ask yourself is why we all know your party will not make that deal.