Urban vs. Rural; What's to be done?

[Speaker to Animals]

This was possibly the worst example she could possibly have thought of.

Maybe so, but that begs the question, which is what rural person wants to give up all the benefits of modern technology, whether it's medicine or telecom. You?

What makes you think cities are necessary for technological development?

I think communications and transportation technologies have rendered the city obsolete, personally.

[brewster]

What makes you think cities are necessary for technological development?

All available evidence. Make your case with evidence. And please don't move the goalposts by defining cities upward, historically even 10k people was a sizable city.

[C-Mag]

I'm personally fond of major medical centers. That said, the whole 'impugning rural people' thing is kinda funny when you think about it. Half of NYC is from elsewhere in the country. You have to listen hard to hear a N.Y. accent on the streets of Manhattan and Brooklyn anymore. Boston has become a magnet for young people and LA always has been. Atlanta had a huge growth spurt. If they're talking trash about rural areas, they're addressing their relatives. But most people in the cities are there for the opportunities and that is the real divider: those who stayed and those who left. Attacking drive and ambition as elitist is attacking the American way. When did we become a nation that hates people who work hard and do well?

I like medical centers too. Doesn't mean I can't hold give just as hard as I get from Urban zombies.

[C-Mag]

What makes you think cities are necessary for technological development?

All available evidence. Make your case with evidence. And please don't move the goalposts by defining cities upward, historically even 10k people was a sizable city.

Bullshit the US Census Bureau classifies urban as 50,000 people. Don't move the goal posts.

[C-Mag]

And the urban folks are the reason half the rural folks aren't dead of smallpox. There is no success for one group without the other.

Bullshit.
Edward Jenner the Father of Immunology invented the first Small Pox vaccine and laid the ground work for future Immunology while observing milking maids in the small town of Berkeley, England, where he worked. Even today the town only has 2,000 people.

[C-Mag]

the whole 'impugning rural people' thing is kinda funny when you think about it. Half of NYC is from elsewhere in the country.

So if they have things to say, they know from where they speak. I don't think anyone has anything bad to say about rural people just because they're rural. It's only when they have reactionary, uneducated, undemocratic and prejudiced views. There are plenty of rural people that do not, but they do not attract attention to themselves. There's nothing wrong with being uneducated (wherever you live), but ignorance allows them to be cynically manipulated. If someone can't tell you whether the sun goes around the earth or vice versa, and in how long, how can you expect them to have informed and reasoned views on the incredibly complex financial, social and political issues our country faces?

The notion that "cities steal grain from the countryside" is simply idiotic. Civilization is built on trade and specialization. Modern farmers couldn't make a 19th century state of the art plow, never mind a combine. Confiscation of food, whether in 1930's Ukraine or 1840's Ireland is a failure not a feature. All I hear is criticism of modern civilization without actual suggestion of an alternative other than subsistence farming for all. As Jedi said, medicine is nice. How many farming families bibles had a page saying "Ma up and died".

Please...……… You're own comments are dripping with arrogance, condescendence, and contempt for rural people. Urban people pick out stereotypes and carry them forward just like you are right now in the immediate post above. All the while snotty urbanites look the other way at the uneducated non productive masses that make up a huge portion of their cities. Test results show Rural youth outpacing urban youth significantly. https://nces.ed.gov/pubs/96184all.pdf

Urban people act like everyone in cities are highly educated, cultured and well spoken. That's simply mythology.

[jediuser598]

the whole 'impugning rural people' thing is kinda funny when you think about it. Half of NYC is from elsewhere in the country.

So if they have things to say, they know from where they speak. I don't think anyone has anything bad to say about rural people just because they're rural. It's only when they have reactionary, uneducated, undemocratic and prejudiced views. There are plenty of rural people that do not, but they do not attract attention to themselves. There's nothing wrong with being uneducated (wherever you live), but ignorance allows them to be cynically manipulated. If someone can't tell you whether the sun goes around the earth or vice versa, and in how long, how can you expect them to have informed and reasoned views on the incredibly complex financial, social and political issues our country faces?

The notion that "cities steal grain from the countryside" is simply idiotic. Civilization is built on trade and specialization. Modern farmers couldn't make a 19th century state of the art plow, never mind a combine. Confiscation of food, whether in 1930's Ukraine or 1840's Ireland is a failure not a feature. All I hear is criticism of modern civilization without actual suggestion of an alternative other than subsistence farming for all. As Jedi said, medicine is nice. How many farming families bibles had a page saying "Ma up and died".

Please...……… You're own comments are dripping with arrogance, condescendence, and contempt for rural people. Urban people pick out stereotypes and carry them forward just like you are right now in the immediate post above. All the while snotty urbanites look the other way at the uneducated non productive masses that make up a huge portion of their cities. Test results show Rural youth outpacing urban youth significantly. https://nces.ed.gov/pubs/96184all.pdf

Urban people act like everyone in cities are highly educated, cultured and well spoken. That's simply mythology.

Both sides do something similar, as in, how many rural folk believe that urban folks have no morals?

People will seize on any difference, just in order to differentiate themselves, when in reality people aren't usually that different.

When I first moved, I thought city people would be very different, being that I was from the country, but I met the same type of people I knew from the country, but they believed different stuff. This was not because they reasoned their way there. They listen to the same music, watch American Idol, or Netflix. Celebrate black Friday.

[Montegriffo]

This utopia is going to be small.
Once you take out the non-whites, urbanites, lefties and any women who want a career there aren't going to be many people left to populate it.
Then there are the left-handed, ginger-haired, vegans and cat lovers to exclude.
This brave new world is going to end up with the population of Pitcairn Island.

[Speaker to Animals]

What makes you think cities are necessary for technological development?

All available evidence. Make your case with evidence. And please don't move the goalposts by defining cities upward, historically even 10k people was a sizable city.

Oh, bullshit. You are the one moving goalposts here.

[Speaker to Animals]

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That is how the cities are run.