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Re: Socialism

Post by DrYouth » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:41 pm

https://www.google.com/search?q=public+ ... ws_rd=ssl
Public good

1. Economics
a commodity or service that is provided without profit to all members of a society, either by the government or a private individual or organization.
"a conviction that library informational services are a public good, not a commercial commodity"
So it depends...

If they were provided without profit to all members of a society - they would then become a public good.
According to this definition both health care and education could be considered public goods.

So now are you going to tell us what your point is?
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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:41 pm

Fife wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:37 pm
DrYouth wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:36 pm
Fife wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:35 pm
To an atheist commie, not much.
And why does it matter to libertarian wingnut?
Speak plainly now.
How much plainer do you want it: do you know the meaning of the term?
Are you attempting to argue the government should only provide something that is a public good?

To most of us that question is utterly irrelevant as to how we manage the transit system.

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Re: Socialism

Post by DrYouth » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:46 pm

Fucking Fife...

"Do you know what a public good is?"

Then he disappears.

Slippery as a pig in shit.
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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:51 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:46 pm
Fucking Fife...

"Do you know what a public good is?"

Then he disappears.

Slippery as a pig in shit.
Do you even know what positron is??

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Re: Socialism

Post by Fife » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:52 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:41 pm
Are you attempting to argue the government should only provide something that is a public good?
Lol, way to go!

You are goddamn gifted, Private Gump.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Fife » Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:57 pm

DrYouth wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:46 pm
Fucking Fife...

"Do you know what a public good is?"

Then he disappears.

Slippery as a pig in shit.
Fuck, shrink. I take a call for 3 minutes and now I'm a pig in shit?

You should spend your precious time googling economic definitions instead of coming up with pig shit insults.

Even wikipedia works in less time than coming up with a <85 IQ pig shit quip.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good
In economics, a public good is a good that is both non-excludable and non-rivalrous in that individuals cannot be effectively excluded from use and where use by one individual does not reduce availability to others.

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Re: Socialism

Post by DrYouth » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:05 pm

Fife wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:57 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good
In economics, a public good is a good that is both non-excludable and non-rivalrous in that individuals cannot be effectively excluded from use and where use by one individual does not reduce availability to others.
Ok...

After multiple duelling definitions are you going to enlighten us as to WHY THIS MATTERS?

Obviously if everyone required health care at exactly the same time... use of the hospital by one individual will limit it's use by another....

There is a solution to this.

It's called Triage.

Why should this get in the way of socialized health care exactly?

PS you are still being slippery...
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Re: Socialism

Post by Fife » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:10 pm

So a kidney can be transplanted into 2 people? You can shrink 2 heads at the same time?

Let's both eat the same cheeseburger tonight.

Socialist magical thinking, everyone.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:14 pm

Fife wrote:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:10 pm
So a kidney can be transplanted into 2 people at the same time?

Let's both eat the same cheeseburger tonight.

Socialist magical thinking, everyone.
There is no argument here. If you believe the government can only rightly tax for and subsidize a public good, then you need to make that argument.

Because, frankly, nobody else here thinks it is relevant to the discussion.




DrY agrees healthcare does not meet the definition of a public good.

DrY thinks the government has a role in funding and providing healthcare.

These two things are not logically related as far as he can tell, and you have yet to make an argument that they really are related.

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Re: Socialism

Post by Fife » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:19 pm

Poor DrY.