Urban vs. Rural; What's to be done?

[Martin Hash]

"Personal Responsibility" is literally part of The Patriarchy that The Left wants to destroy.

Things like merit and effort are also part of The Patriarchy because these things create vast amounts of Losers. Social Media has allowed Losers to aggregate, 10s of millions of them. The Virtual Civil War is much bigger than most people realize.

p.s. People who do not recognized there is a Virtual Civil War are destined to lose it.

[C-Mag]

This is from an Alt Right site. I'm leery of the Alt Right tag, because there are so many negatives that have been thrust upon it. However, this is a great take down of cities and our modern culture. I'm a Ruralist and a big supporter of VDH's Yeoman Farmer policy.

Cities are miserable. Cities are the tragedy of the commons: they reward those who externalize negatives and take as much as possible for themselves, then retreat to gated communities where they ignore their neighbors. Cities are isolating, and anonymous, which encourages bad behavior by removing responsibility. Cities have a culture of the ego because nothing else remains: God, culture, heritage, community and intellect have been removed because they are impedients to equality. This leaves only a giant shopping mall where people have nothing in common but a desire to find the best price before anyone else does.

Horrible aesthetics and ergonomics. Modern architecture is ugly. All modern design — known as “utilitarian” — is, because it aims at the lowest common denominator of human experience and tries to reduce costs while remaining impervious to the constant crime, vandalism and abuse that objects and buildings suffer in a modern society. Everything is dumbed down so that its audience potential widens. Our mass culture is complete garbage, not just licentious and idiotic, but also boring once one gets past the gee-whiz factor of car crashes, promiscuous sex and violence. Our politicians and pundits repeat obvious one-dimensional lies, and people feel witty for choosing one lie over the other. People dedicate huge parts of their lives to purposefully meaningless activities like watching sports and playing video games. The void is all around us, but we have invited it in.

Every aspect of this society is designed to break out spirits and make us into zombie automatons:

Jobs are jails. Jobs have two disturbing characteristics: first, you are judged by appearance, which mostly works against you; second, all but a very small portion of what you do is unnecessary, pointless, CYA, pro-forma, make-work or otherwise nonsense. You are being cucked every second of the day as they force you to do useless stuff and be judged for it, with the people who gladly gulp down the most feces being the ones they promote. On top of that, the workplace is a Petri dish for bad behavior, including snide passive aggression and sadistic peer pressure to conform to a lowest common denominator that is not only stupid but boring. Jobs wreck souls. Jobs instill hopelessness. Jobs make dads come home and pound on their kids.
http://www.amerika.org/politics/the-ant ... in-mordor/

You're just a stupid zombie living in cities.

[GloryofGreece]

There are certainly ways for cities to be both truly utilitarian and beautiful. Some smaller cities that are a thousand + years old have done that. Yea and they're all in Europe.

A lot of what that article's critique on cities and culture is more a critique of modernity as such. The "jobs" mostly suck and are inauthentic. What's the "solution" to that? I mean really its a huge multi faceted problem. Its a political-social-economic problem. So the solution if there really is one will address at least those three large aspects of it and then within those three overreaching categories you'll have sub-categories with possible small solutions for everything you can think of.

The Alt-Right are trying to fix society/politics/culture etc. and a lot of it is the problem of meaning that Peterson try's to address and so do most religions and philosophies. We don't have to be nihilistic, post modern, or hopeless. You can certainly ruminate and brain fuck your way into nothingness and anger, or you can try to do something authentically meaningful for you in this faux, fragmented, commercial world most of us currently live in.

One thing that dude Fife post about routinely is the idea of act "locally" and smaller generally is better. I basically agree with mindset. So some potential solutions for individuals and families and maybe even whole communities is to do something like a Benedictine option, or primitive /transcendental, or hippie like communes, or family coordinated homesteading essentially. For most people even the dedicated self reliant types you are going to have to deal with the city folk to some degree *( even if it mostly only for provisions and essential things like medical care) , but the real problem from social/cultural viewpoint is what to do about the internet/social media/"entertainment" / advertisements/mass marketing etc. etc. and its negative effects on your mood and soul. How do you interact with this world and block that shit out basically and continue to be able to exist in this modern world? Idk yet.

[C-Mag]

I'm not offering solutions for cities or the people that inhabit them. I don't live there, never have, I can't solve their problems. I'm shining a light on the ills of urban life.

Urbanites have attacked rural folks and rural life for centuries, while failing to look at their own failures objectively. A lot of the critiques are about modernity, but a lot are not. Cities have always sought, and been largely successful in creating the idea that urban areas are where enlightenment and intelligence resides. It's not true, the masses of cities are dumbed down, zombies that gladly trade perceived security and culture for living in a wasteland of mental and environmental poison.

Higher functioning humans choose rural environments.

[Speaker to Animals]

I think most of them are genetically adapted to it, though. That's the environment they are adapted to live in. When I lived in the outskirts of a major metropolis, the locals I knew from there were completely tied to it. They can try to leave but they end up moving back or trying to reshape wherever they moved into a little Chicago.

The problem is when we attempt to impose the environmental variables that make urban life upon rural, or vice versa.

[C-Mag]

They are tied to it, they will always bend to the status quo, to the powers that be. It's said that humans would trade independence for corporate mastery. They talk a big game about being against big business, hate the 1%, we demand more rights for main street not wall street. But the real move is to leave it all behind. That's how you rebel.

When you look at independence movements, they start in rural areas. When the urbanites try to put too much of their own F'd up values and laws on rural folks, they only take it for so long. That's what happened in the American Revolution. The urban centers were largely Loyalist. That's why Washington couldn't hold NYC, or Boston. He didn't have public support there. He did in the rural areas though.

[brewster]

That's what happened in the American Revolution. The urban centers were largely Loyalist. That's why Washington couldn't hold NYC, or Boston. He didn't have public support there. He did in the rural areas though.

Fake History. Boston was staunchly revolutionary, was where it began, and was liberated on March 17, 1776. NYC was taken and held by the forces evacutate from Boston because it was worth holding, and easy to defend once the Brits secured it. Rural areas where 80-90% of the population was, are much harder to hold, and much less worth defending.

You guys just make up shit about what life in cities is like to justify your racist bullshit. The article cited shows how fucking crazy the author is when he starts on the evil of jobs without proposing an alternative. Might as well bitch about breathing.

[C-Mag]

[brewster]

And someone had their entire home stolen off their rural 5 acre plot. So fucking what? We can do this all day.

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/inves ... -491726155

[C-Mag]

That's what happened in the American Revolution. The urban centers were largely Loyalist. That's why Washington couldn't hold NYC, or Boston. He didn't have public support there. He did in the rural areas though.

Fake History. Boston was staunchly revolutionary, was where it began, and was liberated on March 17, 1776. NYC was taken and held by the forces evacutate from Boston because it was worth holding, and easy to defend once the Brits secured it. Rural areas where 80-90% of the population was, are much harder to hold, and much less worth defending.

You guys just make up shit about what life in cities is like to justify your racist bullshit. The article cited shows how fucking crazy the author is when he starts on the evil of jobs without proposing an alternative. Might as well bitch about breathing.

Negative.
You come off so sure of yourself, without facts, which really show how programmed urban zombies are, really shows low intelligence just accepting the propaganda thought bubble.

NYC was referred to as Torytown there were so many fucking Loyalists there. NYC was the British primary enlistment area for Loyalists, there were Loyalists militias roaming the streets, Loyalists spies turning in Patriots and giving intel to the Crown. Washington should have burnt the place to the ground, he considered it.

I'll get to Boston later, gotta run right now.

BTW: Where the Fuck did the Racist thing come from ?