that " was seized by the Ecuador Anti-Narcotics Police Forces and Ecuador Military authorities with the assistance of the DEA."
Man - all we do is fuck them....
Nope.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:09 amAnd..nmoore63 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:03 amNah.Speaker to Animals wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:37 am
Huh?
You are diverting to a completely different issue. Who controls the minds of the officer corp in particular controls the destiny of the nation, ultimately. That shouldn't even need to be debated. Go read a book.
Rome won the punic wars because of its citizens.
The military all died. Over and over.
The citizens created a new military and simply continued on.
Or they could have sued for peace and told the military to go away.
This is obviously just one example, but the military is simply one part of the paradigm. Not The.
When Rome transitioned to a professional army.. what happened next?
Just look to modern times for examples galore. The Spanish republicans tried to purge the Spanish army of Catholics, reactionaries, and fascists. Instead of rolling over, those guys just formed a rebellion, took significant territory in a matter of days, and eventually wiped out the communists and anarchists.
Venezuelan socialists purged the army of conservatives decades ago. The conservatives tried to mount something similar to what happened in Spain. Failed. Now Venezuela is locked down by a communist army that looks out for itself only.
This is just how shit works, man. Civilian government always operates by the consent of the military. If the military decides fuck that to whatever the civilian government does, then it stages a coup.
The only way this doesn't factor is when you go back to the original intent of the United States: an electorate of warriors.
I wonder who built that sub. Any of you military types got a make on it?
Most of them are apparently home made fiberglass products:
I used to do a lot of sailing. I could probably build us one, if we didn't care that we would probably die.These are the typical characteristics as stated by the U.S. Joint Interagency Task Force South:[16]
Hull material: wood, fiberglass, or steel
Length 12–24 m
Freeboard 0.5 m
Engines: single or twin diesel
Fuel capacity: 5.6 cubic metres
Range: 3200 kilometers
Speed: 11 km/h or more
Crew: 4
Capacity 4–12 metric tons
Control: human or remote
But we make Fiberglass here, in the US! We're punishing them!!!! It's our corporate greed that's the problem.nmoore63 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:18 amMost of them are apparently home made fiberglass products:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-submarine
For god’s sake, the creation of FARC was a direct result of US interference in the country.Zlaxer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:03 amMilSpecs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:59 amI have no idea how to fix LA BTW. Maybe just give them back the land still owned by US corporations, punish the surviving managers of the corporations that collaborated with the dictators as a show of good faith, and facilitate trade with legitimate producers. If you have better ideas I’d like to hear them.
No - no shifting gears...you said it was our fault that CA and SA are shitholes....as if they would be better off without our involvement....which completely ignores what was happening at the time (and still is - PRC has its claws in). You are either being dishonest or are completely ignorant as to the history of the time and region.
Here's how much we fuck SA - Columbia would not exist without our clandestine operations and huge financial support....they would be overrun by the FARC.
No, retard. FARC was created by the communist party long before we showed up in the 1980s. It was funded and supported directly by the Venezuelan army.MilSpecs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:22 amFor god’s sake, the creation of FARC was a direct result of US interference in the country.Zlaxer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:03 amMilSpecs wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 10:59 amI have no idea how to fix LA BTW. Maybe just give them back the land still owned by US corporations, punish the surviving managers of the corporations that collaborated with the dictators as a show of good faith, and facilitate trade with legitimate producers. If you have better ideas I’d like to hear them.
No - no shifting gears...you said it was our fault that CA and SA are shitholes....as if they would be better off without our involvement....which completely ignores what was happening at the time (and still is - PRC has its claws in). You are either being dishonest or are completely ignorant as to the history of the time and region.
Here's how much we fuck SA - Columbia would not exist without our clandestine operations and huge financial support....they would be overrun by the FARC.