THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Zlaxer]

Silly. There’s no disputing what we did to Latin America during the Cold War. It was the absolute worst of rightism.

You broke it, you bought it.

You're acting like it's worse off now than if we had done nothing...

Yes! Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Paraguay, Cuba ... we directly harmed those countries. Our drug laws are largely responsible for Colombia and parts of Mexico, and our inability to prosecute employers here takes care of the rest (both rightest).

Yes - it's our fault for banning certain substances we find to be harmful (I'm for legalization - but our decision to ban drugs within our own borders is absolutely a sovereign right). Your arguments suck logically...it's all feelz for you.....Hey, England fucked us over hard after 1783 - yet we still managed to make it....we didn't even come close to fucking CA and SA like the English fucked us....how much time should they get before the blame leaves us? Feelz Feelz Feelz......Fuck Da White Man! Truth to Power MilSpec!

[C-Mag]

:popcorn

[MilSpecs]

You're acting like it's worse off now than if we had done nothing...

Yes! Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Paraguay, Cuba ... we directly harmed those countries. Our drug laws are largely responsible for Colombia and parts of Mexico, and our inability to prosecute employers here takes care of the rest (both rightest).

Yes - it's our fault for banning certain substances we find to be harmful (I'm for legalization - but our decision to ban drugs within our own borders is absolutely a sovereign right). Your arguments suck logically...it's all feelz for you.....Hey, England fucked us over hard after 1783 - yet we still managed to make it....we didn't even come close to fucking CA and SA like the English did to us....how much time should they get before the blame leaves us? Feelz Feelz Feelz......Fuck Da White Man! Truth to Power MilSpec!

Punish everyone else for our screwups. That’s worked well.

I have no idea how to fix LA BTW. Maybe just give them back the land still owned by US corporations, punish the surviving managers of the corporations that collaborated with the dictators as a show of good faith, and facilitate trade with legitimate producers. If you have better ideas I’d like to hear them.

[Zlaxer]

Yes! Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Paraguay, Cuba ... we directly harmed those countries. Our drug laws are largely responsible for Colombia and parts of Mexico, and our inability to prosecute employers here takes care of the rest (both rightest).

Yes - it's our fault for banning certain substances we find to be harmful (I'm for legalization - but our decision to ban drugs within our own borders is absolutely a sovereign right). Your arguments suck logically...it's all feelz for you.....Hey, England fucked us over hard after 1783 - yet we still managed to make it....we didn't even come close to fucking CA and SA like the English did to us....how much time should they get before the blame leaves us? Feelz Feelz Feelz......Fuck Da White Man! Truth to Power MilSpec!

Punish everyone else for our screwups. That’s worked well.

What the fuck are you talking about? That response make no sense....Punish everyone else for our screwups?

[Zlaxer]

I have no idea how to fix LA BTW. Maybe just give them back the land still owned by US corporations, punish the surviving managers of the corporations that collaborated with the dictators as a show of good faith, and facilitate trade with legitimate producers. If you have better ideas I’d like to hear them.

No - no shifting gears...you said it was our fault that CA and SA are shitholes....as if they would be better off without our involvement....which completely ignores what was happening at the time (and still is - PRC has its claws in). You are either being dishonest or are completely ignorant as to the history of the time and region.

Here's how much we fuck SA - Columbia would not exist without our clandestine operations and huge financial support....they would be overrun by the FARC.

[nmoore63]

Huh?

You are diverting to a completely different issue. Who controls the minds of the officer corp in particular controls the destiny of the nation, ultimately. That shouldn't even need to be debated. Go read a book.

Nah.
Rome won the punic wars because of its citizens.
The military all died. Over and over.
The citizens created a new military and simply continued on.
Or they could have sued for peace and told the military to go away.

This is obviously just one example, but the military is simply one part of the paradigm. Not The.

[MilSpecs]

Yes - it's our fault for banning certain substances we find to be harmful (I'm for legalization - but our decision to ban drugs within our own borders is absolutely a sovereign right). Your arguments suck logically...it's all feelz for you.....Hey, England fucked us over hard after 1783 - yet we still managed to make it....we didn't even come close to fucking CA and SA like the English did to us....how much time should they get before the blame leaves us? Feelz Feelz Feelz......Fuck Da White Man! Truth to Power MilSpec!

Punish everyone else for our screwups. That’s worked well.

What the fuck are you talking about? That response make no sense....Punish everyone else for our screwups?

The Drug War.

[Zlaxer]

Punish everyone else for our screwups. That’s worked well.

What the fuck are you talking about? That response make no sense....Punish everyone else for our screwups?

The Drug War.

Holy Fuck - banning drugs in our own country is now punishing everyone else....You're being serious....which is what drives me nutz....I would move on if I thought you were trolling, but you're not - you really have that kind of logic....

So then we should legalize all guns right? Gun trade is as big as drug trade.

How about child sex slaves? There's a pretty big demand on the black market.

[Speaker to Animals]

Huh?

You are diverting to a completely different issue. Who controls the minds of the officer corp in particular controls the destiny of the nation, ultimately. That shouldn't even need to be debated. Go read a book.

Nah.
Rome won the punic wars because of its citizens.
The military all died. Over and over.
The citizens created a new military and simply continued on.
Or they could have sued for peace and told the military to go away.

This is obviously just one example, but the military is simply one part of the paradigm. Not The.

And..

When Rome transitioned to a professional army.. what happened next?


Just look to modern times for examples galore. The Spanish republicans tried to purge the Spanish army of Catholics, reactionaries, and fascists. Instead of rolling over, those guys just formed a rebellion, took significant territory in a matter of days, and eventually wiped out the communists and anarchists.

Venezuelan socialists purged the army of conservatives decades ago. The conservatives tried to mount something similar to what happened in Spain. Failed. Now Venezuela is locked down by a communist army that looks out for itself only.

This is just how shit works, man. Civilian government always operates by the consent of the military. If the military decides fuck that to whatever the civilian government does, then it stages a coup.

The only way this doesn't factor is when you go back to the original intent of the United States: an electorate of warriors.

[nmoore63]

Look at this drug trafficking submarine.