HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by C-Mag » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:35 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:22 pm
Populism in its Pure Form
Alain de Benoist
Interview by Nicolas Gauthier
Translated by Greg Johnson
....Even if the lower classes and the lower middle classes are the driving force — which gives the movement an extraordinary class dimension — the yellow vests come from different backgrounds; they bring together young and old, peasants and businessmen, as well as office employees, blue-collar workers, and managers. Women as well as men (I think of those septuagenarian pensioners who do not hesitate, despite the cold, to sleep in their cars so that barricades can be held fast, day and night). People who do not care about the Right or the Left, and who for the most part never even participated in politics, but who fight on the basis of what they have in common: the feeling of being treated as second-class citizens by the media caste, considered as conscriptable and exploitable at the mercy of the predatory oligarchy of the rich and powerful, never to be consulted, but always to be deceived; indeed, to to be the “scapegoats” (François Bousquet) of France’s dregs, this “peripheral France” that is today undoubtedly the most French in France, but who are nevertheless abandoned to their fate to be victims of unemployment, declining wages, insecurity, relocation, immigration — and after years of patience and suffering, they ended up saying: “That’s enough!” That’s the yellow vests movement. I respect them, I respect them all!

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We've spent a dozen pages arguing if it is left or right, but its across the board.

I'm really diggin this term 'Perference Cascade'
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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:14 am

C-Mag wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:35 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:22 pm
Populism in its Pure Form
Alain de Benoist
Interview by Nicolas Gauthier
Translated by Greg Johnson
....Even if the lower classes and the lower middle classes are the driving force — which gives the movement an extraordinary class dimension — the yellow vests come from different backgrounds; they bring together young and old, peasants and businessmen, as well as office employees, blue-collar workers, and managers. Women as well as men (I think of those septuagenarian pensioners who do not hesitate, despite the cold, to sleep in their cars so that barricades can be held fast, day and night). People who do not care about the Right or the Left, and who for the most part never even participated in politics, but who fight on the basis of what they have in common: the feeling of being treated as second-class citizens by the media caste, considered as conscriptable and exploitable at the mercy of the predatory oligarchy of the rich and powerful, never to be consulted, but always to be deceived; indeed, to to be the “scapegoats” (François Bousquet) of France’s dregs, this “peripheral France” that is today undoubtedly the most French in France, but who are nevertheless abandoned to their fate to be victims of unemployment, declining wages, insecurity, relocation, immigration — and after years of patience and suffering, they ended up saying: “That’s enough!” That’s the yellow vests movement. I respect them, I respect them all!

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We've spent a dozen pages arguing if it is left or right, but its across the board.

I'm really diggin this term 'Perference Cascade'
No we haven't, it has been almost universally agreed that both extremes are causing the violence and that their grievances are wide and varied.
What we have been arguing about is whether France is still a Socialist country.
I say it is not because Macron's policies are elitist and take money and services from the working classes to give to the rich and big business. DB says it is because they still have some Nationalised industry.
We reached an impasse and olive branches were offered (but not accepted)
I sometimes worry about your reading skills comrade Carlus. ;)
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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by GloryofGreece » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:02 am

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:31 am

I was listening to the new Mo20C podcast and apparently the 5th Republic is based on the central premise of promising the "good life" to everyone no matter what class they are. Everyone is unhappy because that standard of living is no longer possible for various reasons not least of which being the incredible amount of taxes they pay. Reminds me of our equivalent, "the American dream."

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:43 pm

Fife wrote:
Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:23 pm
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But he's in a black car and the mirror is clearly on a yellow car,
or some other shit to obfuscate the actual meaning of the meme.
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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:57 pm

Libertarians are basically liberals, so of course they can't meme.

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Montegriffo » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:01 pm

LOL, you think I was criticising Fife's meme.
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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:05 pm

Well, that makes sense that a liberal would like his meme.

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Re: HAPPENING: /Ourguys/ Burning Federal Buildings and Degenerate Art Museums In France

Post by Fife » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:16 pm

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