Women make less because men work longer hours, duhhh...

[Speaker to Animals]

Somebody had to give up their career path for the kids, unless you’re wealthy enough to hire someone to run your life for you. This is reality, whether or not you or anyone else likes it. Things seem to be slowly changing.

You still aren’t remotely rational on this subject. Has it occurred to you that both men and women can abandon their families? Or conversely, that both men and women may want to put their families first? Or that we don’t want to leave our children in poverty after a divorce? Or that a bad marriage isn’t the kids’ fault and their welfare has to come first?

There is no chance - 0 - that my husband would have harmed his children to spite me, or vice versa.

And somebody had to give up time with his children, working 50-60 hours per week, just so women can stay home and do coloring books with the kids.

funny how it does not work the other way. A man becomes disabled and his wife leaves him because he no longer makes enough mpney to support her. He is disabled and living on a fixed income. She still can pursue a career. Not only does the man get no alimony, they steal half his disability check to give to the woman.

It is time women start getting treated like men for a change. Nobody gives a shit about men suffering, going hungry, living out in the woods like animals. Do not come at me with this "we dederve alimony and child support" bullshit while in another breath you say women are the equals of men. Men who demand child support and alimony from their more succesful ex-wives, if tgey can even win that battle, are seen with contempt by most of soceity. That is what you deserve too for expressing that above opinion, if you are indeed the equal of men.

If women are equals of men thrn they need to start acting like it. No woman who re eives alimony and/or child support is the equal of the average man out there. Literally, the guy struggling to feed himself while roofing in July is your better. If you cannot even be responsible for yoyrselves when you are able-bodied adults, then you are equal only to children.

[MilSpecs]

Please post some links to these studies. I'm interested in seeing how things like mowing the lawn, maintaining the cars, fixing appliances, etc.. are broken out.

OECD and World Economic Forum are two sources, but the fact that women on average do more family care isn’t in dispute. Most men even acknowledge it. Lawn mowing - really? A couple of hours on a Saturday at most, during the season. Until the kids take over. Oil changes and toaster repairs aren’t taking up much time either. The stuff that takes hours after work and on the weekend used to be done almost exclusively by women, although things are changing now. We’re not dropping into our beds exhausted at midnight anymore, assuming we have a live in partner.

[MilSpecs]

funny how it does not work the other way. A man becomes disabled and his wife leaves him because he no longer makes enough mpney to support her. He is disabled and living on a fixed income.

Do you seriously think this is the norm? If you think most women would abandon their sick husbands, you’re not being rational (and you’re definitely talking to the wrong person).

[Speaker to Animals]

funny how it does not work the other way. A man becomes disabled and his wife leaves him because he no longer makes enough mpney to support her. He is disabled and living on a fixed income.

Do you seriously think this is the norm? If you think most women would abandon their sick husbands, you’re not being rational (and you’re definitely talking to the wrong person).

Yes. It absolutely is the norm. Onerous child support was, at least about six years ago, the third leading cause of homelessness amongst disabled veterans according to the VA, right behind drug abuse and mental illness.

And do not pretend like you would not switch gears if it were the other way around. If it were instead men "sacrificing their careers to raise children", you would still proclaim women's victimhood, claiming men were exploiting women like parasites and living off their labor. Instead of bitching about the mythical wage gap, you'd be bitching about how women are forced to work significantly longer hours, alienated from their children, all so men can stay at home playing with children.

I am under no illusion that you'd even be honest with yourself about this, but I think most forum members know I am right about that. Women like you are only interested in amassing privelege and will twist any difference at all into your special victimhood.

Women who divorce their husbands do not deserve a single dime from their ex-husbands' income. Divide the assets and fuck off. Get a job for fuck sake. You are all adults, I was led to believe.

[nmoore63]

The idea that halving the assetts is the totality of the bond is false.

I mean we are still talking about whether it’s more equitable to cut a body in half vertically or horizontally but still, the breaking is more than just assetts.

[Speaker to Animals]

The idea that halving the assetts is the totality of the bond is false.

I mean we are still talking about whether it’s more equitable to cut a body in half vertically or horizontally but still, the breaking is more than just assetts.

They literally deserve nothing else. If your wife takes off, even stealing your children, then she deserves nothing from you. It is an evil act for which most of these women likely face eternal consequences if they do not turn their lives around.

What is happening to fathers in our society is essentially the inverse of what the Jews were doing to mothers when Jesus rebuked them.

Jewish men would make up excuses to divorce their older wives, keep the children, and dump their ex-wives as beggers on the street. It was evil when men did it to women and it is still evil now with women doing it to men.

it's most evil for what they infllict upon children.

[MilSpecs]

Onerous child support? It costs what it costs. The kids need a roof over their heads and food on the table, and that doesn’t change after divorce. Just like when you have the flu but you still have to drag yourself up to change and feed them. You don’t get to starve your kids because you’re angry at their mother, no matter how justifiable the anger.

[nmoore63]

The idea that halving the assetts is the totality of the bond is false.

I mean we are still talking about whether it’s more equitable to cut a body in half vertically or horizontally but still, the breaking is more than just assetts.

They literally deserve nothing else. If your wife takes off, even stealing your children, then she deserves nothing from you. It is an evil act for which most of these women likely face etwenal consequences if they do not turn their lives around.

Half of everything we have since the union is the others, that includes educations, certificates, realized earning abilities.

There is no part of what I have become that she lacks a claim to.

[Speaker to Animals]

The idea that halving the assetts is the totality of the bond is false.

I mean we are still talking about whether it’s more equitable to cut a body in half vertically or horizontally but still, the breaking is more than just assetts.

They literally deserve nothing else. If your wife takes off, even stealing your children, then she deserves nothing from you. It is an evil act for which most of these women likely face etwenal consequences if they do not turn their lives around.

Half of everything we have since the union is the others, that includes educations, certificates, realized earning abilities.

There is no part of what I have become that she lacks a claim to.

If it were instead men "sacrificing their careers", women would demand men get less than half because women are victimized yet again by being forced to work long hours for men's benefit.

You still do not understand that it does not matter which way the difference goes. You could invert the dynamics of any of these issues and women would still claim victimhoid and demand more priveleges.

In any case, most women today work, Nick. Most of them pursue men for respurces rather than love, which is why most women marry men who eaen more than them. That was their choice and they are not victims!

[Speaker to Animals]

And when there really exists no difference, they will manufacture diffetences dishonestly by redefining terms. We see this clearly with sexual assault and rape. Women and men commit those acts at comparable rates. There is no difference so it is hard to demand legislation specifically benefiting women at men's expense. Thus they redefine terms like rape to mean "forced penetration" and reclassified "forced to penetrate" as other sexual assault. This makes it appear that almost all rapes are committed by men. For a woman to rape according to that definition, she has to use some object to penetrate a man's ass against his will.

Yet when you untangle the redefinitions of rape, women commit it around the same rate as men. But almost all the resources for this go to women, and all the legislation is predicated under 'protecting women".

We have to stop falling for this racket.